Re: I'd like to speak to the manager
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2026 2:08 pm
"...are convinced...". Duhhh.
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Yes, I am. I'm convinced. Certain.I don't know what your path is.
But you are clearly on it.
Finally.
You are, aren't you?
Please read all through page 5 of our dialog, looking closely at our conversation, and the various places it resonates.
Knowing, seeing I AM.What is left?
Someone seeming to struggle at something. But... there's no one to struggle so... and the struggle is just a thought or belief so... there's just what's happening. There's THIS.What is here?
If I say something is missing, that is a belief and we're done with beliefs. So either a) nothing is missing or b) something is missing and I don't know it. But everything is exactly as it is and couldn't be any other way so, the truth is that nothing is missing. Nothing CAN be missing.What is missing?
Discounting any beliefs, thoughts, or feelings about something being incomplete, we're left with "nothing is incomplete".What is incomplete?
I AM. I am here, complete, boundless as I ever was... despite the "pretending otherwise", as you put it.What is complete?
It's obvious there is no separate entity, anywhere, and there never was. I've LOOKED and I know it's not there in the way I always assumed. There never could have been. Yet, I can't believe that's true. Luckily, it's also clear that beliefs are just poofy blips of nothingness in the nothingness so... it doesn't matter what I believe or feel about it... it just must be true.Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
The illusion of a separate self is the belief I've had as long as I can remember that I exist as this separate D thing, like a fork or a mug exist as objects. Like I am an object... the body that has thoughts and feelings and characteristics and memories and problems. I don't know when that belief began, because I have no memory of "thinking" any other way. In my experience, that belief-thought of I seems to sort of attach itself it to every single thing in experience. If a thought arises, it's MY thought. If I look at my foot, it's MY foot. Every single arising in experience is filtered through this I-me belief-thought. It's been going on for so long that it seems that's what LIFE is... the WORLD is.... I am. At this point the filtering has been going on so long that it seems natural and normal. How I see it now is that it's NOT natural. There's something far more real and natural.Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
It feels freeing and scary at the same time. Freeing because there are no problems and nothing to do, scary because all the inner tubes and life preservers and pool noodles I was using to keep "myself" afloat are gone and that's unnerving, to say the least.How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
When I read the words, "You're already awake. Stop pretending you're asleep." something happened. That's the best way to put it.What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
This may be missing the boat, but those all seem like the same question asked 5 different ways, so I'm going to answer once and please send my apologies to the Customer Service Team if they wanted more.Describe decision & give examples from experience.
Describe intention & give examples from experience.
Describe free will & give examples from experience.
Describe choice & give examples from experience.
Describe control & give examples from experience.
Nothing makes things happen, they just happen. Things appear and disappear. It's all one thing just being itself.What makes things happen? How does it work?
I'm responsible for things in a legal or societal or familial sense, but not in a "universal" sense. I had an experience at work where I was insensitive to a colleague in a certain situation. They were unhappy and expressed it later and I apologized and we moved on. I was responsible for being insensitive in the societal sense because the words came out D's mouth and the behavior originated in D's body and so it made sense that I would accept responsibility and apologize. In the "universal" sense, if there's no "me" then how can I be responsible for my actions any more than my colleague was responsible for their response. We were doing a dance... the universe dancing with itself... neither of us responsible in a "universal" sense but both of us simple being the universe breathing.What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
I can't express how grateful I am that our paths crossed, Jeff. Anything else I could possibly say would be trite and miss the mark. But I am certain you know what I'm trying to express.Anything to add?
Yeeeeeeeeeessssssssss...I can't express how grateful I am that our paths crossed, Jeff. Anything else I could possibly say would be trite and miss the mark. But I am certain you know what I'm trying to express.