The Gate

Thank you Scott. I will now give other guides the opportunity to ask questions. Happy thanksgiving.

Ps. When you write

I feel much less doubt and uncertanty, because I know that all past problems etc, even ones which I made out to be really complicated come from very simple feelings.

... You mean less doubt and uncertainty in general right? You don't mean to say that there is still doubt and uncertainty if there exist a separate self/agent, right?

If I misunderstood, tell me about any residual doubt about the existence of the separate self.

Guide M has follow up questions to your answers to question 5 in the check point questions:


1. Decision

You mentioned observing a feeling or thought that says, "I should do X." Could you elaborate on how a decision arises in the absence of a self?


2. Intention

You described intention as a feeling that motivates action. Could you clarify where this feeling comes from?


3. Free Will

Can you give a concrete example where the illusion of free will becomes apparent in daily life?


4. Control

How does understanding that there is no control change the way you approach life?

Guide S asked:

Are you still seeking anything?

Are your answers from thinking or from looking at Direct Experience?

Has there been a shift in perception? Please describe it.

You mean less doubt and uncertainty in general right? You don't mean to say that there is still doubt and uncertainty if there exist a separate self/agent, right?

Yes, less doubt and uncertanty in general

Are you still seeking anything?

No, there is no "I" separate from an experience who seeks, there are only the current sensations. The urge to seek is also gone because it was recognized that this urge to seek was an escape from feelings of fear and inadequacy.

Are your answers from thinking or from looking at Direct Experience?

My answers are from direct experience.

Has there been a shift in perception? Please describe it.

There used to be a feeling that there was an "I" which was in control and which had a history and a personality. Now I know that the "I" is not in control. Seeing just happens, doing just happens, thinking just happens. Also various behaviors which I took to be "mine" stemm from underlying feelings, unresolved issues from childhood which I'm becoming more aware of now, that there is less controlling behavior.

You mentioned observing a feeling or thought that says, "I should do X." Could you elaborate on how a decision arises in the absence of a self?

No, I'm not sure I can, when looking at a certain thing or thinking a certain thing, a thought can come in which says "I should do X".

You described intention as a feeling that motivates action. Could you clarify where this feeling comes from?

I can't clarify where any feelings come from.

Can you give a concrete example where the illusion of free will becomes apparent in daily life?

When I say to myself, "I'll go and make a cup of tea", then there is the illusion of free will.
- There is the thought itself which has the accompanying "I"
- There is the decision to act on the thought and make the cup of tea. I have no idea how this decision is made.
- Then after I have made the cup of tea - I sit back down and say "What a good idea I had, what a great decision I made", which strengthens the ownership of the whole process.

How does understanding that there is no control change the way you approach life?

That's a hard one to say. I never felt that much in control and I have no strong need to be in control in general. The one thing I wanted to be in control of was my spiritual life. I'd say in that regard, I am no longer looking for any kind of outside help or waiting for some kind of inspiration, but am instead interested in feeling and appreciating the feelings which occur during the course of the day because this is the source of all the problems I created for myself - and wanted to solve - and also these feelings are feelings which everyone has and there is no ownership of these feelings.

Thanks

With love

Scott

Thank you Scott, I and the other guides read your answers.

Guide S followed up with this question:

How does it FEEL to see there is no "self," no control?

Please take this as an opportunity to look and feel freshly and express directly from the most sincere openness.

How does it FEEL to see there is no "self," no control?

It feels very freeing, that feelings are just feelings and are the essence of any experience. It also makes me feel really calm that there is nothing that can be done about it, that you can't change feelings and there is no need create a problem out of them.

Thank you Scott, the guides had no more follow up questions. So, unless you have anything you would like to ask me, I think we can land the process for now. Of course clarifying, releasing and discovering continues... And you will always be welcome to write me here on this thread if you have questions, or write me at eladexplore1111@gmail.com . I will also greet you at the Unleashed facebook group, if you join that. There are many options to explore and socialize with other "LU graduates" and that can be valuable at times. Also, guiding others can be valuable, both for "paying it forward" and for all the discovery that happens in doing that. So you might consider that as a future option... And also welcome to talk to me about that, should you be interested at some point.

Hi Elad,

Ok, I'd like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for the support and encouragement which you have given me. The impact of working with you through this has been enormous.

Thank you very very much

With love

Scott

Thank you for looking with sincerity Scott. It's been an honor and an inspiration. Nerina will contact you if she didn't all ready. Allways feel free to reach out, to ask questions or just share what is discovered and experienced 🌻