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Maiam
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Re: Hello I am here.

Postby Maiam » Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:43 pm

Hi Rali

1
) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
I have looked numerous times and found no separate entity anywhere in any shape or form
What is here has remained unchanged for as long as thinking/feeling has been here , at some point I started to check for this separate I , I cannot say for certain that it was ever here.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
From my experience believing I was a person moving through time , the thoughts and senses associated with the body here were assumed to be mine .
It started once I could communicate through language,sometime around age of 3?I became familiar with the name Mairead.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
This was seen long time ago, it was shocking and relief also to realise the thoughts that I had assumed were mine had nothing to do with me.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
I am relying on memory here,this was quite a while ago. looking for the separate being, looking for edges, where I begin and where I end. I could not say.



Unsure what you are asking me to describe, but here goes.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience
Decisions are thinking ( thoughts )
Suddenly a thought appears I will book a holiday ( thinking )
Will I go to France or Portugal ( thinking )
Researching holidays on the internet ( seeing )
Thoughts about budget, length of holiday , time of year ( thinking )
Indecisive ( thinking )


Describe intention & give examples from experience.
Intention = to clean house tomorrow ( thoughts ) = thinking
Intention to go to bed early = thinking
Describe free will & give examples from experience.
Don’t really know what this means
If I say I have free will to do as I please, how many times have I set out to do something and suddenly plans change .

Describe choice & give examples from experie
nce.
Choose to drink coffee/tea = thinking
To stay at home or meet some friends for a drink = thinking
Describe control & give examples from experience.
I cannot describe what control is, I cannot control what I’m thinking or feeling
I don’t even know what I am going to say next
I play bridge online and have little patience for players who do silly things , even tough I realise most are far less experienced players than I am , I cannot control my irritation.
I say to myself , be patient and next minute I am messaging my frustration to them
What makes things happen? How does it work?
Belief in two causes one thing to appear to affect another.



What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience
.
Again unsure how to answer this, I can only be responsible for what I am believing
Can I even be responsible for that, that’s just another thought

6) Anything to add?
Without thoughts there is nothing to say about anything
Thoughts were believed to be the source of suffering here
That is just another thought
There is freedom to not knowing what any of this means
So anything else I can say are just more thoughts about thoughts
Thank you for messaging regularly this past month.At the start mind kept saying, I know all this,why am I doing this?
I would ask it, do you really know , how can a thought know what anything is.
I prefer to not know anything.

Mairead

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Re: Hello I am here.

Postby poppyseed » Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:04 pm

Hi Mai

Thank you for your wonderful answers!
One of the guides that reviewed your answers has a question:

Does free will exist ... yes or no?
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Rali
“Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in.”
― Alan Alda
"The moment I am aware that I am aware I am not aware. Awareness means the observer is not"
― Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Re: Hello I am here.

Postby Maiam » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:54 am

Hi Rali

Answer is No .

I wrote this yesterday
What does it mean to have free will ?
There is someone that can control their experience
We already know there is 'noone' here
Someone who believes they know
Someone who has power over events

Free will , Someone , experience , events etc are all concepts
And of course yesterday :)

Love Mai

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Re: Hello I am here.

Postby poppyseed » Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:55 pm

Hi Mai
Welcome home!

Thank you for your beautiful answers! It has been such a pleasure to walk beside you through the gateless gate! Your openness and willingness to look were simply awesome and made guiding you a joy.

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