Hide & Seek...

[Aldous65]

You seem clear, and there seems to have been a clear shift.

Yes, I’m realising more everyday just how big it was, or maybe I should say just how big the ramifications are.

Would you like to answer the final questions to wrap up our conversation here at LU?

Or is there something that is still unclear that you would like to explore?

You covered what I was going to ask with the stream and responsibility questions (great timing!) so yes, I think it’s probably time.

Does the water choose any of its directions? Is it even really a separate entity different from the water deposited in it, the rocks, the depressions in the ground and so on?

Is it even the same entity moment by moment, or more the product of weather conditions and water, like an ever-changing pattern?

No, it's just a part of the whole, functioning as it's nature dictates. (The stream pointing gives a wonderful feeling of flow)

1. Can you find anywhere where 'you' autonomously intervene into life, choosing something that is not the product of all the elements; that is not a part of the overall flow?

No, there appears to be a 'me' intervening sometimes, but it’s not solid; it’s just an appearance/illusion.

2. Now please consider a regular decision made eg; what to wear in the morning, or what to eat for lunch, and describe to me what happens. There are environmental factors, there are color preferences (but where did those come from - any autonomous intervention there perhaps?), practical issues (such as what is available), available time for preparation, purpose (eg; need to fill up for the day, or to look cool for a certain person) etc.

There are lots of decisions in getting dressed for work; what to wear, what colour shirt, which pants, is there a meeting with the big boss that I need my best clothes for, is it going to be hot/cold today? etc, etc. There are lots of decisions but no solid entity to make them. And any decision comes from a long line of factors. Like parents/siblings/society’s influences, childhood experiences, traumas, natural inclinations/intuitions, etc, all play a role. And fundamentally, whatever the anonymous impulse says to do/choose/think is exactly what happens.

Where in there is an autonomous entity intervening in the flow of life?
Can you find someone somewhere?

No, there isn’t one.

3. Can anything be found for which 'you' are responsible – if so responsible to what and for what?

No, it’s a self-sustaining flow of happenings with no-one to interfere.


- I would like to really focus on everything I’ve seen/learnt here for a while and let the ramifications really sink in. But is there a ‘next step’ you would recommend when the time comes?

- And I'd like to thank you for all your effort, time and patience in this conversation. I truly appreciate everything you’ve done. Thank you. :)

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[Bluejay]

- I would like to really focus on everything I’ve seen/learnt here for a while and let the ramifications really sink in. But is there a ‘next step’ you would recommend when the time comes?

- And I'd like to thank you for all your effort, time and patience in this conversation. I truly appreciate everything you’ve done. Thank you. :)

Yes, I usually share next steps after the final questions.

Would you like to answer the final questions now?

[Aldous65]

Would you like to answer the final questions now?

Yes, I think I'm ready. :)

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[Bluejay]

Here you go. Let me know if you have any questions :)

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe how decisions are made & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

[Aldous65]

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No, only the illusion of one.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

The illusion of separate self is a combination of assumptions, beliefs, and thoughts that combine to give the impression of a separate ‘me’. It starts in childhood when we are taught to believe that we are separate entities and when we begin to mimic the thinking and assumptions of our parents and society.

It survives because we believe we are our thoughts and never question or look closely enough to see if that is correct. And we never notice that an impulse precedes thoughts and actions and that we don’t know where that impulse comes from.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

It feels very clear, very simple. It also feels like a weight has been lifted. There’s a lightness to everything and life seems less stressfully important and kind of amusing. :) There is also a feeling of connection to ‘God/Universe/Life’ that is always there, always shining. It’s subtle and simple, but constant no matter what’s happening.

Before I saw this, I would overthink everything and be constantly going over what I had to do and what could go wrong. But now it just kind of happens. There’s still thoughts, and decisions are made, but they just happen and actions follow and everything feels perfectly natural.

My Father came over to help me with a few house repairs, and normally afterwards my mind would be racing and I would struggle to let the day’s events go. But yesterday, after we finished, they just released. I was completely present when it was happening, then when it was done it just naturally released. No stress, no repetitive replaying of thoughts, nice and smooth.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

I had resolved a sticking point around whether the ‘sense of self’ could be the part that the ‘creator’ made to learn/evolve/reincarnate etc. And it felt great for 24 hours, but when I went to bed that night something was still irritatingly incomplete. A bit frustrated I said to myself, “Forget about anything you’ve read or heard and just see what is here NOW, what is this…..right now!” So I guess it was the frustration of feeling like I understood but the realisation wouldn’t come. And then, without any past knowledge in mind, I just looked right here/now and honestly saw what was there.

5) Describe how decisions are made & give examples from experience.

I want to decide to eat beef or fish. An anonymous impulse arrives that indicates beef as the right choice, then milliseconds later a thought says, “Yeah, beef sounds good.” Then another impulse arrives that indicates fish as the right choice and milliseconds later a thought says, “Yeah, I should choose fish.” An impulse then indicates fish is better and a thought grabs hold and says, “Yes, I definitely choose fish.”

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

An impulse arrives to remember to wash the car, a thought then says, “I intend to go and wash the car after I finish this work.”

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Anonymous impulses come before thoughts and actions, so free will is an illusion.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Anonymous impulses come before thoughts and actions, so choice is an illusion.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

Anonymous impulses come before thoughts and actions, so control is an illusion. Whether it’s control of my temper, a car, or my career path there isn’t a ‘me’ to be in control.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

I don’t know where the anonymous impulses come from – maybe from God/Universe – or maybe they are just automatic reactions to the different happenings and movements of life. But those impulses decide and control what happens. Later, thoughts create a story about how 'I decided', 'I chose', 'I believed'...

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

Nothing, there’s no solid entity that exists to be responsible.

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[Bluejay]

Thanks for the answers!

I'll now share these with other guides to see if they have any questions or feedback.

I'll be back :)

[Bluejay]

Here's one question from a guide:

What is "God/Universe" at direct experience?

[Aldous65]

What is "God/Universe" at direct experience?

From direct experience; you could say that 'what is' is God/Universe, or you could say that God/Universe doesn't exist.
But God/Universe only becomes a separate nameable 'thing' within thought. So I would say that God/Universe is a concept.

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[Bluejay]

No one had any more questions.

An admin will contact you with an invite to the LU FB group.

That wraps up our conversation. It's been a pleasure talking to you. As you said earlier, it's good to keep inquiring and clarifying this, as this is just the beginning.

If you ever have any questions, you can always ask anyone on the FB group, or reach out to me at anytime.

Below are some excellent resources for further exploration. It is not meant for you to explore all of these. Simply notice what resonates and go with that.

And if you just want to relax and do nothing right now, that's an excellent option!

Simply Awake app - Free app for your phone that contains dozens of meditations that will help you keep looking deeper.
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... roid.awake
Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/simply-awake/id1544382796

https://perfectlyokay.org/ - A free, supportive community that has many different modalities and meetings.

Oscillation group - PerfectlyOkay.org also has an oscillation group for if you feel like you are going in and out of seeing. You can find information on it if you go to perfectlyokay.org -> Weekly Meetups -> scroll down half-way to Tuesdays and it should be there. You can also do a search on the page for 'oscillation' in the browser. The time right now says 10am PT on Tuesdays but please confirm this as it may change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X_Xpd10pV0 - A great video from Angelo Dilullo on this process and how it deepens on its own, if not resisted.

https://simplytheseen.com/ - If you're interested in the fetters.

Then you have regular meetings. There are 3 groups you can attend:

Vince Shubert has one or two per week. Email vinceschubert@gmail.com for more information.

Luchana and Lubo have a group on Thursdays. Email Luchana at luchanauzunova@gmail.com

Ilona holds a monthly meeting. Write admin@ilonaciunaite.com for more.

And of course PerfectlyOkay.org community has dozens of meetings weekly.

[Aldous65]

That wraps up our conversation. It's been a pleasure talking to you. As you said earlier, it's good to keep inquiring and clarifying this, as this is just the beginning.

If you ever have any questions, you can always ask anyone on the FB group, or reach out to me at anytime.

Thank you again for everything Henri. :)

I appreciate all the time and effort you've put into guiding me.

Tack själv!
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[Bluejay]

I wish you all the best on your explorations :)

Ha det gott!