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Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:52 pm
by Bill2
Is it possible that nothing is real? All illusion? All imaginary? Freedom then, but what is free?

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:02 pm
by Lubo
Is it possible that nothing is real? All illusion? All imaginary? Freedom
From the old world, nothing yes.
Freedom then, but what is free?
Beautiful question. What is free? What is not free?

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:11 pm
by Bill2
I feel as though nothing exists. All I have is awareness and thoughts from nowhere.

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:41 am
by Lubo
Beautiful.
Yes, awareness + "nowhere" and what appear between is = look around :)
Is this around someone or is not now?

Big YES!
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Just stop identify with body and thoughts and here you are full and complete :)

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:09 am
by Lubo
...and I want to add and invitation.
to join this Thursday, zoom meeting,
6 pm France time zone,
free of charge with stream in YT
If you want to take part. let me know and send me your email for zoom link.

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:47 pm
by Bill2
So I have only to enjoy the beauty of the illusion! Wonderful.

Please send link and I will try to be there- wpegg79@comcast.net

Much gratitude,

Bill

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:49 pm
by Lubo
So I have only to enjoy the beauty of the illusion! Wonderful.
Mmm, what is illusion at your own DE?

Nice. I will send you email.

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:04 am
by Bill2
Sorry, what is DE?

Also sorry I did not speak at the meeting. Socially awkward. But I do appreciate all the help and to at least get as far as I have at my old age :)

Are there to be more questions?

Bill

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:03 am
by Lubo
Also sorry I did not speak at the meeting. Socially awkward. But I do appreciate all the help and to at least get as far as I have at my old age :)
I am happy that you jump.
Are there to be more questions?
Ok. Check at your own Direct Experience (DE :)
How I can be something?
I am a story about persona - at DE is there something more than a content of thoughts?
I am colours, forms, sensations called body - at DE is that someone or this is what is found?
I am a thinG - at DE things are things right and there is no I ?
Is it posible to find my self? or whatever is found is only what is found?

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:04 am
by Lubo
...answer each question separately, fully as you can.

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:02 pm
by Bill2
How I can be something?

I the self cannot be anything. It is an illusion. But the imaginary self is free to be anything.

at DE is there something more than a content of thoughts?

Yes. The body is real and thoughts, sensations, perceptions, and emotions appear from we know no where.

I am colors, forms, sensations called body - at DE is that someone or this is what is found?

This is just what is found. I am not my body and there is not a separate being.

I am a thing - at DE things are things right and there is no I ?

I experience things but I cannot find an I.

Is it possible to find my self? or whatever is found is only what is found?

There is no self to find. You just deal with what you find and enjoy the beauty without taking the happenings too seriously.

Thank You

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:36 pm
by Lubo
I the self cannot be anything. It is an illusion. But the imaginary self is free to be anything.
Are you sure that there is real imaginary self? Real Santa, real imagination, is there such thing?

Bill, this is your investigation.
The guides can confirm you or no, it doesn't matter at all.
The only important thing is your own seeing.
Really to see the whole picture, to be liberate from the ideas and limitation of "I persona"
Feeling is of liberation, real.
Seeing - "persona" is a ghost -bye, bye, ghost!

be honest with yourself, why there should be imaginary me?
What this is needed?
Look what is here without fear, shame and guilt, they are ghost's attributes.

So much love to you,
Lubo

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:16 pm
by Bill2
I can see that there is no imaginary self and no self at all. However I keep repeating this in my "mind" and I feel that I should just know this without reminding "myself". This is what I need to see naturally. What is being missed?

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:42 am
by Lubo
To forget the old story that you are separate and should find that you are not? 😁

Re: Slow Progress

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:04 pm
by Bill2
Yes, exactly. Going with direct experience. Seeing the world. Hearing the world. Smelling the world. Tasting the world. Feeling the world. Without thought or interpretation, like a newborn. DE Eyes open, thoughts coming, body moving, see, feel, taste, hear, emotions, feelings come and go-this is all and nothing else.