1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
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2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
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3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before we started this dialogue? Please report from the past couple of days.
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4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
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5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
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6) What makes things happen? How does it work?
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7) What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
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6) Anything to add?
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Who i am
Re: Who i am
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: Who i am
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
ANSWER: I am just an idea composed of thoughts about myself
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
ANSWER: The illusion of "I" begins when we start associating ourselves with something, and the self itself arises from thoughts.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before we started this dialogue? Please report from the past couple of days.
ANSWER: Before the dialogue started, I thought I was far from seeing this. Now I understand that I needed to see the obvious – everything I can see/realize a priori is not me.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
ANSWER: I don't remember exactly now, but when I was doing your exercise, it felt like I briefly understood this, and later continued to observe.
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
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You've already asked this question i think. let me answer all these questions in one comment to avoid a sense of incompleteness: the illusion of freedom of choice and decision-making arises from associating ourselves with the one who decides how to act in a given situation. In reality, there is no choice; every choice you make is a result of what you did before and what led you to the moment when you have to make a particular choice. There is no real choice; it's all thoughts about choice. When we think we can choose something, we pre-determine what choice will be best for us, but that choice is built on everything we know and the experiences we've gained. I hope this is a satisfactory answer.
6) What makes things happen? How does it work?
ANSWER: Things happen because they happen. I think this is a question about justice, like why this way and not another? If I misunderstood the question, please correct me.
7) What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
ANSWER: For nothing, no one takes responsibility because there is no one to take it.
6) Anything to add?
ANSWER: Yes, I would like to say that I am grateful to you for your work. I want to sleep now, but I will wait for your response as long as I can. God definitely loves you, don't forget that.
ANSWER: I am just an idea composed of thoughts about myself
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
ANSWER: The illusion of "I" begins when we start associating ourselves with something, and the self itself arises from thoughts.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before we started this dialogue? Please report from the past couple of days.
ANSWER: Before the dialogue started, I thought I was far from seeing this. Now I understand that I needed to see the obvious – everything I can see/realize a priori is not me.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
ANSWER: I don't remember exactly now, but when I was doing your exercise, it felt like I briefly understood this, and later continued to observe.
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
ANSWER:
You've already asked this question i think. let me answer all these questions in one comment to avoid a sense of incompleteness: the illusion of freedom of choice and decision-making arises from associating ourselves with the one who decides how to act in a given situation. In reality, there is no choice; every choice you make is a result of what you did before and what led you to the moment when you have to make a particular choice. There is no real choice; it's all thoughts about choice. When we think we can choose something, we pre-determine what choice will be best for us, but that choice is built on everything we know and the experiences we've gained. I hope this is a satisfactory answer.
6) What makes things happen? How does it work?
ANSWER: Things happen because they happen. I think this is a question about justice, like why this way and not another? If I misunderstood the question, please correct me.
7) What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
ANSWER: For nothing, no one takes responsibility because there is no one to take it.
6) Anything to add?
ANSWER: Yes, I would like to say that I am grateful to you for your work. I want to sleep now, but I will wait for your response as long as I can. God definitely loves you, don't forget that.
Re: Who i am
Dear Dos,
I and three other guides reviewed your answers and no one had questions, they confirmed it looks like seeing is happening. This means you "graduated from LU", all though as you know, there is no one to graduate, and no external authority that can say what seeing is there and clear, or not. There is only what is seen from "inside"/direct experience.
You will be contacted by Nerina, who will give you information about post-LU posiblities. Many people after seeing enjoy or find support in talking to others who see. For many seeing is the begining of a big process. Seeing the non-existence of the separate self is one core illusion seen through; for many it starts a process of seeing and letting go of other misunderstoof beliefs and unhelpful patterns of thinking/behaving. So there is companionship and support to be had if it is wanted. If you join the facebook group for people who "passed the gateless gate" (you will be invited by Nerina) I will meet you there and I will be happy to answer questions in the future, should any come up.
Thank you for this walk together!
Elad
I and three other guides reviewed your answers and no one had questions, they confirmed it looks like seeing is happening. This means you "graduated from LU", all though as you know, there is no one to graduate, and no external authority that can say what seeing is there and clear, or not. There is only what is seen from "inside"/direct experience.
You will be contacted by Nerina, who will give you information about post-LU posiblities. Many people after seeing enjoy or find support in talking to others who see. For many seeing is the begining of a big process. Seeing the non-existence of the separate self is one core illusion seen through; for many it starts a process of seeing and letting go of other misunderstoof beliefs and unhelpful patterns of thinking/behaving. So there is companionship and support to be had if it is wanted. If you join the facebook group for people who "passed the gateless gate" (you will be invited by Nerina) I will meet you there and I will be happy to answer questions in the future, should any come up.
Thank you for this walk together!
Elad
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
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