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Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:41 pm
by Unknown123
Thank you , Stacy πŸ™πŸ»πŸ’•
I will continue to observe.

As an After thought,
Questions n philosophy of life.. sorry I asked again .
Agreed that’s just a thought n can be ignored.

For now I have mixed emotions, what this is.
So just looking at everything that is arising.

With Metta πŸ™πŸ»πŸ’•
~ ruchi

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:52 am
by Anastacia42

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:03 am
by Unknown123
Thank you for sharing a pointer, Stacy. I will go through this later and share what comes up.

Felt like running a marathon and not finding what everyone talks the joy of running a marathon.
A lost goal or purpose.

Moments where nothing was ever there nothing is lost nothing to search. No one to search.

So expectation is what I have also questioned many times before reaching a similar state.
Again mind is drawing references from the past and labels.

I spent last 4 hours sitting in a train and looking outside of the window.

Sensations are there no boundary. Mind creates subject/objects and separation.
Movements
Sounds. Mind recognises sounds n labels
Looking. Mind identifies and labels

Looking continues.

After thought mind claims who looks and what is looked.

There is a silence n pause between direct experiencing and mind commentary.

With Metta πŸ™πŸ»πŸ’•
~ ruchi

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:19 pm
by Anastacia42
How does that FEEL?

Loving,

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 8:21 pm
by Unknown123
How does that FEEL?
Still and empty

Please give me some more time to observe.


Thank you
With Metta πŸ™πŸ»πŸ’•

~ ruchi

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:40 pm
by Anastacia42
How does that FEEL?
Still and empty

Please give me some more time to observe.
Certainly.

Loving

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:58 pm
by Unknown123
Thank you for your patience and understanding, Stacy.

Sharing an experience.
Had an MRI yesterday. It was the first one.
Was in the machine and subjected many noises.

The mind had no memory or recognition for those.
There were sounds and loud unrecognisable sounds.

There was something/ someone observing sounds.
Also observing mind being clueless.
Do see this is a constructed story.

In that moment or moment later, I was seperate from sound.

Please correct me here.

Another observation is there is no self for a while.
Moments of pure looking.
Then moments of mind/not looking.
Not a continuous state of being.

Is this just a a phase and programming of mind. Also notice resistance and chest tightness every time observe the mind again.
Also struggling to speak. Voice fades away/ throat chokes while talking.

Please guide further.


Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

With Metta,
~ ruchi πŸ™πŸ»πŸ’•

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:00 am
by Anastacia42
chest tightness every time observe the mind again.
Yes, Mind lies.

I have no idea what "phase" you're asking about.
Moments of pure looking.
Then moments of mind/not looking.
Not a continuous state of being.

It won't be 24/7. There's likely to.be a "honeymoon period," and then what we call, "got it, lost it," as untrue beliefs come up to be questioned.

Watch this, please:

https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

and

https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4

Loving,

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:00 am
by Anastacia42
chest tightness every time observe the mind again.
Yes, Mind lies.

I have no idea what "phase" you're asking about.
Moments of pure looking.
Then moments of mind/not looking.
Not a continuous state of being.

It won't be 24/7. There's likely to.be a "honeymoon period," and then what we call, "got it, lost it," as untrue beliefs come up to be questioned.

Watch this, please:

https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

and

https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4

Loving,

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 2:00 am
by Anastacia42
chest tightness every time observe the mind again.
Yes, Mind lies.

I have no idea what "phase" you're asking about.
Moments of pure looking.
Then moments of mind/not looking.
Not a continuous state of being.

It won't be 24/7. There's likely to.be a "honeymoon period," and then what we call, "got it, lost it," as untrue beliefs come up to be questioned.

Watch this, please:

https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

and

https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4

Loving,

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:13 am
by Unknown123
Thank you for guiding me, Stacy.
I will go through these videos pointers as well.

Regarding,
I have no idea what "phase" you're asking about.
You have clarified and pointed that it won’t be continuous already.
I was wondering if this coming and going is just a phase.

I see mine has plenty of resistance to offer.
Goes in mind more pretty easily. Either there is alertness or mind-ness ( if there is a word:) )

There is seeing and no seeing. hence, unsure if this is it.
What would your advice be to be sure.

Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

With Metta πŸ™πŸ»πŸ’•,
~ ruchi

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:03 pm
by Unknown123
Morning Stacy,

Trust you are well.

Request further guidance.

Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

With Metta πŸ™πŸ»πŸ’•,
~ ruchi

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:27 pm
by Anastacia42
Certainly. Sorry. Sometimes I read these and then close without replying. That's why I ask you to post even if I don't. I may have meant to get back to it and then didn't.
You have clarified and pointed that it won’t be continuous already.
I was wondering if this coming and going is just a phase.
"Won't be continuous" and "just a phase" are the same to me.

This coming and going and "not continuous" can go on for years. I have never met anyone who no longer slips into "self" at times. The difference is that we do not believe it is real when that happens. It's easy to look and say, "Oh, that's just Santa in his suit." We are never fooled again that there is really a "Santa Claus."

Can you say now 100% that there is no self, even if at times it looks that way?


How are you doing with ButtChair? That's the one to go back to over and over. All of these pointers are meditations and are not just "give the right answer" kinds of things. So, they may all be practiced repeatedly.

Loving,

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:35 am
by Unknown123
It's very kind of you to offer your time and presence to all of us.
I understand and thank you for replying, Stacy and please don't apologize.

Yes, anything mind says; just smile and ignore. This is a lot more peaceful way to function than changing or resisting thoughts. Belief is totally disrupted.

Yes, there is no self, based on my experiments and seeing things are happening on its own.

Mind is resisting and continue to observe. Only things that is repeatedly coming up from mind is you sure, that it is not another belief.
Thats where there is pause to confirm when you ask. clearly seeing thoughts, feelings etc from a distance...
How does one move past this thought?

Buttchair is improving, moments were felt completely dissolved and return suddenly. This definitely helps to stay out of body identification. Agree, these pointers will need practice to deconditioned from the illusion of self. Will be on it.


With Metta,
~ruchi

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:45 am
by Anastacia42
You're welcome, Ruchi.

When you can say that 100% there is no separate "self" then we're complete. At that point. I'll offer some "final" questions.

This is only a beginning. From there, you'll sort what changes with seeing clearly there is no separate "self. "

Loving,