The Gate

it feels incredible. I just want to stay there.

but sometimes it feels scary.

depends on mood and tiredness.

Also depends on how fast thoughts are running. Sometimes easier to LOOK and sometimes harder to concentrate (when thoughts are flying fast).

Defo some resistance to letting go of nothing. But at the same time, the desire and motivation for peace is high.

again this accountability is vital for me to continue looking.

it changes all the time! Right now it feels so relaxing. and during the night it felt like no seperation . I feel super good when that happens and I want more and more. But is a delicate thing! cannot be forced, it actually requires less effort.
love it when the whole system relaxes

i need to read the book. I have not done that task this time . i take this as a reminder to do that today!

thank you! and all the best

Beautiful.

We have some traditional "final" questions. Let me know when you feel ready to answer those.

Loving,

thanks I will let you know. Firstly, im going to read some more of gateless gate. and post back on here

best wishes

Sure, sounds good. Let it settle in a bit. I'll post the questions here so that you have some idea what I'm talking about. You can continue to go to our support groups and chat with others about what is happening for as long as you like.


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

Loving,

Great. I like the questions. Gonna do a few more days of feeling the butt. Loving the butt thing. Then certainly.in a few days the questions

Last night in the night i was in a low.mood becuase I was having unwanted thoughts and then the despair of not having a choice in what those thoughts were (which of course has always been the case) but for some reason it was Very scary. But it passed and in the morning that did not bother me at all

All the best

Yes, that is true. Eventually, it is very *freeing* not to have to worry about things we cannot control. You know: everything!

Much love,

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

no. just in thought content which is not real as such. One cannot be found in DE

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

starts at around 2 years old when we develop the separate sense of self becasue people keep calling us by name and rating us good or bad, clever or not, etc, and we created a belief system that there is an entity a person there, and this continues thoughtout life, unless challenged. Thats how I see it. I still have all the residual triggers / body sensations like shame, when someone says i did something wrong. That was created at a young age

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

. it does not feel any different. But past few days - when I do these inquiries I can get a sense of peace, but it only really lasts as long as the inquiry .

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

feeling the butt on the chair for 3 days or so and feeling only 1 sensation. Also reading in the gateless gatecrashers it said something liek "the mind and body are important and should be kept safe but can you find an owner of them?" Something like that. And when I read that it was like "check mate" for the mind.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

a decision is a concept we add on top of what is happening. Is there really a decision or just actions and then thoughts claiming that decisions exist and also decisions are made by an seperate self. But actually things just happen or not . There is an illusion of a decision making process .

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

just thoughts about the future . not really sure how it works.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

an illusion. thought content that says it is in control

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

I have no idea have choice works, but the mind tries to claim it and say "i want this", but desire and just running

Describe control & give examples from experience.

there is non, but an illusion of control via thought content

What makes things happen? How does it work?

no idea

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

nothing really. I make a mistake, i feel bad or i feel bad cus someone points it out, but that is just thought content.

6) Anything to add?

i dont feel any different. maybe many subtle shifts have gone unnoticed. currently im in a bit of a dull place with myself (its very cold (winter) and im indoors a lot working from home). yes this forum is not about emotions. but i did come here to come here to feel better, and i do feel more peace when i do the inquiries. I feel that how I have written the answers to these questions right now is very much dependent on my current mood e.g. if I answer these tomorrow in a better mood, then there might be more lightness to it. and i know that all we are looking for is 1 clear SEEING, and its not about the fluctuations.

best wishes

Your SEEING is good. I suggest you go to the teleconference groups for support while things settle in.

Your replies will be shared with other guides who may have questions.

Much love,

great ok!!

Hi David,

No one had questions but they all recommended you attend some of the groups to process & settle in. Good work!

Vince's group is tomorrow. Write him for the current link & to confirm the time.

Meet up with vince (For LU seekers & guides)

6 am Sydney (est) Australia, Monday - may be 5 am
Every 2 weeks after that.

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86991485768?p ... 12Um5DQT09

Meeting ID: 869 9148 5768
Passcode: 083035

Let him know if you want email reminders.

Vinceschubert@gmail.com

Loving,