Realisation please. Thank you

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Adi » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:48 pm

Hi Stacy,
What is the last thing you practiced?
I got to the experience and object swapping part on the "where is I" recording you've sent me (track 7).
It took me a couple of goes to vividly imagine and understand.
What, exactly, did you feel or see?
The change of qualities attached to different experiences / thoughts and objects was quite surprising for me, when I finally got to the bottom of it (I tried it twice before I could visualise properly). It makes a lot of sense when thinking about it afterwards, but the feeling was so vivid and changed the way I looked at those experiences and objects. I felt that the object was only the qualities I felt attached to it, it has no meaning without them. It could be any object, it did not have an identity of its own without the qualities.
I still need to finish the second part of that recording.

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:42 am

the feeling was so vivid and changed the way I looked at those experiences and objects. I felt that the object was only the qualities I felt attached to it, it has no meaning without them.
Very good. Keep going.

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"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Adi » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:28 pm

Hi Stacy,
I listened to the second part of the track and practiced the “where is I”. I didn’t find anything worth mentioning. I know the answer in my mind but don’t know it by looking.
I felt an “I” at first, I felt it was in my chest (although in mind I know there’s none) and when he asked to look at an object and then look at the “I” that arises and interacts with it, it was a bit more effective, in a way that I did not look at it before that way, but I cannot tell anything more that’s with significance about it.
I think I’ll have to try it all again. I feel it’s a bit intangible and perhaps I need to concentrate.

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:49 pm

"I" in your chest? A tight feeling? That only means you're lying. Remember?

THERE IS NO I... ONLY THOUGHTS MADE UP.

There is no way to feel something that doesn't exist.

Keep LOOKING.

Have I given you ButtChair?

Loving,
~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:53 pm

It doesn't look like I've given ButtChair. That is the only pointer I was given here. I did the same looking over & over for a couple of months & then saw (again).


Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.

Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?


Whenever you like. You can do all of the DropBox IAM first.

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~ Stacy

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Adi » Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:20 pm

Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
Only a sensation.
I’ll keep listening to the files.
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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:25 pm

Good.

Can you find in Direct Experience any separate "self."

Keep answering that question and how does it feel to see that there is no self?


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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:26 pm

Hi Adi,

"I" in your chest? A tight feeling? That only means you're lying. Remember?


Please LOOK & reply to this.

Loving,
~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Adi » Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:57 pm

"I" in your chest? A tight feeling? That only means you're lying. Remember?
I guess, but this is how it felt when I was looking for the “I” , because I couldn’t really find it but I felt that I is in my chest.
I’ll keep looking
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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:33 pm

What tells you that the lie feeling is an "I"?

This is a simple mis-labeling, a misunderstanding. All you have to do is to understand this was a wrong label for the lie feeling.

CHECK it for yourself, though.

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:34 pm

By the way, *everyone* feels the lie feeling when they say there is something that is "I."

The reason is obvious. :) IT IS A LIE.


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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Adi » Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:22 pm

What tells you that the lie feeling is an "I"?
Nothing, I look but can’t see it’s a lie. I guess I’m used to the I I think I am…
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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Anastacia42 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:21 pm

Are you willing to SEE and let go of what you're used to (lying to yourself)?


Review the questions in the lie feeling exercise. we did.

Compare them to this feeling you get when you think there's an "I." Are they in the same family of feelings?

That is, tight, heavy, tense?

"If it hurts you are lying. "

~ Byron Katie

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Adi » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:53 pm

Are you willing to SEE and let go of what you're used to (lying to yourself)?
I am!
Review the questions in the lie feeling exercise. we did.

Compare them to this feeling you get when you think there's an "I." Are they in the same family of feelings?
No, there’s no sense in the feeling of I. It’s mind only, I find. It cannot be located…

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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Postby Anastacia42 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:08 pm

No, there’s no sense in the feeling of I. It’s mind only, I find. It cannot be located…
Good!

Have you read any of Liberation Unleashed? Or Gateless Gatecrashers?

Always focus on how does it FEEL to see there is no self. What is found?

Which DropBox pointer are you doing now?

How does that FEEL?


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~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti


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