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Re: How do I return home

Postby N704GC » Sat May 28, 2022 5:47 am

Hi Stacy,

I apologize for the delayed response. The last couple days have been very busy/tiring with work. I understand that it is important to communicate daily so apologies. I will respond to your message first thing in the morning, just wanted to let you know


Thanks,

Diego

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Re: How do I return home

Postby Anastacia42 » Sat May 28, 2022 10:12 am

That's okay. Life happens.

Rest & reply when you can.

Loving,
Stacy
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Re: How do I return home

Postby N704GC » Sat May 28, 2022 6:06 pm

Good morning Stacy,

Describe intention & give examples from experience.
intention can only exist relating to the past or future right? So its a thought and/or sensation
Is this a typo? Was there ever a "self? "
Ah, I meant to write while 'self' is believed/created, if that makes sense.

Drink Experiment
In step 1 when thinking about their respective qualities, did you ‘choose’ the qualities? Or did they kind of appear by themselves? If some preferences manifested, did you ‘choose’ these preferences? Or did they just pop up by themselves?
Qualities popped up on their own, based of past experiences with these drinks. Preference developed on its own
In step 2 when you counted to 5, if the preferences took the back seat while the numbers took the front seat, did you ‘choose’ this sequence of event? Did you ‘choose’ to shut down the preferences to give way to the counting?
When attention was put on counting then the preferences seemed to dissolve. Preferences only came back once the eyes were open and looking at the beverages again
Did you directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’? Have you seen this function in action?
This mental function felt tied to the sensation of 'me', as if "I" was choosing. An 'I' felt created/strengthened that likes or dislikes the drinks. This function seems almost ubiquitous in day to day life.
In step 3 where you made a choice, did you actually witness or directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’? Did anything arise that announced, ‘I am the chooser’? If so, what does this function look like?
Nothing announced that it was the chooser, there was no separate entity.
Sometimes we describe this sense of choosing as a ‘feeling’: It feels like ‘I’ did the 'choosing’. But the question is, can a feeling ‘choose’? Is it in the nature of a feeling to 'choose’?
A feeling can't choose, just like a thought can't choose. Its like the 'feeling' informs, but isn't the 'one' doing the choosing.

Thank you,

Diego

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Re: How do I return home

Postby Anastacia42 » Sat May 28, 2022 9:44 pm

Hi Diego,

Just this...
Did you directly experience a mental function or faculty doing the ‘choosing’? Have you seen this function in action?
This mental function felt tied to the sensation of 'me', as if "I" was choosing. An 'I' felt created/strengthened that likes or dislikes the drinks. This function seems almost ubiquitous in day to day life.
Back to question 1.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

Before, you said:
no, there is simply this experience of life. There never was, just a bunch of thoughts bundled together to form this 'I'
Is there a "self" or isn't there?

Loving,
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Re: How do I return home

Postby N704GC » Sun May 29, 2022 6:12 pm

Stacy,
Is there a "self" or isn't there?
No there isn't an actual 'self', these thoughts of choice and preference get confused as 'I'


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Diego

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Re: How do I return home

Postby Anastacia42 » Sun May 29, 2022 9:36 pm

Great. I'll share your replies with other guides, who may have further questions.

Watch your Private Messages, top right. as well as the page. You can keep coming to group teleconference for support as you integrate your seeing.

Loving,
~ Stacy

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Re: How do I return home

Postby N704GC » Sun May 29, 2022 11:26 pm

Thank you Stacy for your guidance!

It's been really good to work with you and have solid pointers without all the spiritual 'fluff' that can be so distracting! Hope you are well

Diego (:

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Re: How do I return home

Postby Anastacia42 » Mon May 30, 2022 12:37 am

You are so welcome. Doing great here.

Loving,
Stacy
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Re: How do I return home

Postby Anastacia42 » Mon May 30, 2022 1:06 am

Hi,

Vince asked me to invite you again to the teleconference meetings. Next one is June 6th.

Our next one is:

June 6, 2022 05:00 AM Canberra, Melbourne, Sydney

Then fortnightly

Jun 6, 2022 05:00 AM

Join Zoom Meeting

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Re: How do I return home

Postby Anastacia42 » Mon May 30, 2022 12:34 pm

Good morning, Diego!

Welcome home! You can have crossed the Gateless Gate.

I do recommend attending the video chats linked above to support you in adjusting & getting through any doubts that may come up.

One of the guides is curious about any details on this answer, but he agrees you are seeing;

"Out of curiosity, I would be interested to hear a more elaborate answer to #4. He never really said what pushed him over. Not necessary, but I always like to know what people feel worked for them."

I try to attend the video meetings, so you may see me there. It was great to work with you.

Loving,
~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

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Re: How do I return home

Postby N704GC » Mon May 30, 2022 3:04 pm

Good morning Stacy,
"Out of curiosity, I would be interested to hear a more elaborate answer to #4. He never really said what pushed him over. Not necessary, but I always like to know what people feel worked for them."
To answer this question, it would definitely be the relabeling exercise that we did initially, where sensations were labeled as such instead of happening to an 'I' (i.e. I am feeling tightness in my back, vs there is tightness in the back) which helped show that 'I' is just a label in a very direct, consistent way.

Frankly there didn't seem to be a big 'push', it all feels so subtle. Maybe this will clarify over time.

Thank you,

Diego

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Re: How do I return home

Postby Anastacia42 » Mon May 30, 2022 3:11 pm

Thank you. Yes, it can be subtle over time.

Have a great day!
~ Stacy

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