The Gate

Hi Lubo!

I hope you are doing good.

Thanks a lot for your response.

What is the substance of a thought? - Why you are looking for a substance where there is no substance?

I feel & think like thought is also a physical subtle kind of sensation and we have assigned meanings/labels to specific kinds of sensations.

What is the substance of a color? Sensations? Smell? Taste? Is there substance at all?

I don't know.

Jawad, there is no Me - separate entity that lives in the body but not that there is no you, you are what you are, space where all this appears.

Oh, Ok. Right... Exactly that's what I can see myself.

Yes, you are not this picture that appears.

Ok, I am the space/awareness in which everything appears but if we say that I am not the picture that appears in the awareness then that point toward duality. (ME "Space/awareness") & (Things that appear in that space).

Am I not both Awareness & things appearing in the awareness? Is there only not just ONE Awareness? Is everything appearing this is not made up of that same awareness?

Exactly like when the dream appears the dream does not come for you this is just what is happening. You are not responsible for any of that because you are not that, can you see this?

Everything inside me is me. If the dream is happening inside my brain then that dream is also me.

Are you sensation, thoughts, this picture that is moving here?

I am sensations, thoughts, these pictures & the awareness both in which all of these things appear.

Waiting for your response.

Thanks

Regards

Jawad

Hi Jawad,

I feel & think like thought is also a physical subtle kind of sensation and we have assigned meanings/labels to specific kinds of sensations.

Jawad, there isn't physical and NONphysical - when the dream appear with all colours, sensations, thoughts, what is physical? Here is the same, there are just colours, sensations and thoughts what is physical and NON physical?

Ok, I am the space/awareness in which everything appears but if we say that I am not the picture that appears in the awareness then that point toward duality. (ME "Space/awareness") & (Things that appear in that space).

Yes, you are right if there are two things it will be duality, but if there is an you - space and something that is not you then this something is not real, a dream, maya. Notice that you are not a colours?

Everything inside me is me. If the dream is happening inside my brain then that dream is also me.

Really? Are you all shits in the stomach? Or they are just there? Are they coming for you? Are they know that there is an you ?

The dream just appear . Do you produce this look around? Can you stop producing it, please? Or this just appears by itself?
Is This, what is, knows that it appear for you?
Is THIS knows that there is an you at all?
This is a trap, thoughts are cheating you, LOOK!

Much love
lubo

Hi Lubo!

I hope you are doing good.

Thanks a lot for your response.

Jawad, there isn't physical and NONphysical - when the dream appears with all colors, sensations, thoughts, what is physical? Here is the same, there are just colors, sensations, and thoughts what are physical and NON-physical?

True. Nothing.

Yes, you are right if there are two things it will be duality, but if there is a “you” - space and something that is not you then this something is not real, a dream, Maya.

Why all of those things that are not "ME" is not real but a dream or Maya? Do you want me to adopt this as a new belief? How can I look in DE that all perceived things are not real?

Notice that you are not a color?

Yes, I am not a color but how it proves that color is not real.

Really? Are you all shits in the stomach? Or they are just there?

Where is a human body without its external & internal parts? All body parts joined together to make a fully human body.

Exactly the same way The empty space of the Universe is me and all of the things in the universe are my body parts and that universe including all its body parts is my real Body.

Are they coming for you? Are they know that there is a “you”?

No

The dream just appears. Do you produce this look around?

No

Can you stop producing it, please?

No, I can't.

Or this just appears by itself?

Appears by itself.

Is This, what is, knows that it appears for you?

No

Is THIS knows that there is a “you” at all?

No

This is a trap, thoughts are cheating you, LOOK!

True. I agree.

Waiting for your response.

Thanks

Regards

Jawad

Why all of those things that are not "ME" is not real but a dream or Maya? Do you want me to adopt this as a new belief? How can I look in DE that all perceived things are not real?

The answer is IN your question - Look at DE!
What is here?
Is there something that is happening because of you?
Is there an you in all this?
Does This know that appear for you?
Do YOU do this?
Why you believe thoughts that you can make something in this that appears by itself?
Is it possible empty space to do something to any appearances? Look!
Is it possible empty space to become something else, but not space?
Does the empty space has a brain? or there are just a thought that appears in the space?

Love
lubo

Hi Lubo!

I hope you are doing good.

Thanks a lot for your response.

The answer is IN your question - Look at DE!

I looked into my DE but couldn't find the answer to my own question.

What is here?

What is, is here.

Is there something that is happening because of you?

Nothing is happening here.

Is there a “you” in all this?

No

Does This know that appear for you?

There is just "what is" in my DE but the answer that appeared as thought is "I don't know.".

Do YOU do this?

This just is. Nothing happening. Nothing is being done by no one.

Why do you believe thoughts that you can make something in this that appears by itself?

There is no belief in this thought anymore.

Is it possible for the empty space to do something to any appearances? Look!

After the reading of the above question, the thought appeared: "I don't know".

Is it possible for the empty space to become something else, but not space?

After the reading of the above question, the thought appeared: "I don't know".

Does the empty space have a brain?

After the reading of the above question, the thought appeared: "I don't know".

or there is just a thought that appears in the space?

There is just thought that appears.

Waiting for your response.

Thanks

Regards

Jawad

Jawad,
Do you really expect thoughts to tell you what is gong on here?
Please read again all questions on which you replay:

but the answer that appeared as thought is "I don't know.".

Find the answers, they are here and do not wait for the thoughts to say the answer, OK?

You sent your replay very quick. The questions are pointers where to look.
Look, for a whole day. This is your job, I cannot look instead of you.

Hi Lubo!

I hope you are doing good.

Thanks a lot for your response.

Do you really expect thoughts to tell you what is going on here?

No. You asked me to tell you my experience from my direct experience. So I told you everything from my direct experience. There were thoughts in my direct experience that's why I told you about those thoughts.

Please read again all questions on which you replay:
but the answer that appeared as thought is "I don't know.".
Find the answers, they are here, and do not wait for the thoughts to say the answer, OK?

How is it even possible to reply without converting my direct experience into thoughts?

If I will disregard the thoughts then our discussion will end here and you will not get any response from me.

Let me give you an example:

Your Question from your last post: What is here?

If I Look in my DE and try to look at what is here then a few "thoughts" will appear & say Here is "seen, sounds, sensations, taste, smell". But this answer came from my thoughts and these thoughts are based on past knowledge. But in reality, "I don't know" what is here. And you do not want me to share my thoughts with you. If you do not want me to share my thoughts with you then How can I even share anything with you?

If I say "Here are seen, sounds, sensations, taste, smell" This answer is still from the thought and that is based on past knowledge in reality I do not know what is here.

If I say "I don't know". That answer is also from thought but that answer is more close to DE or Reality and that answer is not based on my past knowledge or memory.

But If I disregard/ignore the thought altogether then I will not be able to come up with any answer then you will not get any reply from me.

Does This know that appear for you?

If I say: "No". <- That is also a thought based on my assumption. In reality, "I don't know" if this know or not. But the answer "I don't know" is also from thought but closer to the truth and not based on any assumption or prior knowledge.

But you want me to disregard & ignore all of my thoughts and then answer. Sorry, that's not possible for me.

Without thought, I can not come up with the answer to this question.

Is it possible for the empty space to do something to any appearance? Look!

If I say: "No". <- That is also a thought based on my assumption. In reality, "I don't know" if space can do something or not. But the answer "I don't know" is also from thought but closer to the truth and not based on any assumption or prior knowledge.

But you want me to disregard & ignore all of my thoughts and then answer. Sorry, that's not possible for me.

Without thought, I can not come up with the answer to this question.

Is it possible for the empty space to become something else, but not space?

If I say: "No". <- That is also a thought based on my assumption. In reality, "I don't know" if space can become something else or not. But the answer "I don't know" is also from thought but closer to the truth and not based on any assumption or prior knowledge.

But you want me to disregard & ignore all of my thoughts and then answer. Sorry, that's not possible for me.

Without thought, I can not come up with the answer to this question.

Does the empty space have a brain?

If I say: "No". <- That is also a thought based on my assumption. In reality, "I don't know" if space has its own brain or not. But the answer "I don't know" is also from thought but closer to the truth and not based on any assumption or prior knowledge.

But you want me to disregard & ignore all of my thoughts and then answer. Sorry, that's not possible for me.

Without thought, I can not come up with the answer to this question.

If you think it's possible to answer those questions without thought then please give me an example so I can understand how to answer without thought.

Waiting for your response.

Thanks

Regards

Jawad

Hi Jawad,

Do you really expect thoughts to tell you what is going on here?

No. You asked me to tell you my experience from my direct experience. So I told you everything from my direct experience. There were thoughts in my direct experience that's why I told you about those thoughts.

The questions are pointer where to look and, yes you can use thoughts to describe WHAT IS SEEN.
So, back to the questions LOOK, and describe with simple words what is SEEN, nothing more, OK?

If I Look in my DE and try to look at what is here then a few "thoughts" will appear & say Here is "seen, sounds, sensations, taste, smell". But this answer came from my thoughts

No men, thoughts don't know anything THIS is just a thought but not knowing, can you see this? The thoughts know or the thoughts are also known?.
Is there a wall? Notice that thoughts just say there is a wall, this is just a comment, but not a wall, can you see this?

L.

Hi Lubo!

I hope you are doing good.

Thanks a lot for your response.

The questions are pointers where to look and, yes you can use thoughts to describe WHAT IS SEEN.
So, back to the questions LOOK, and describe with simple words what is SEEN, nothing more, OK?

Ok

No man, thoughts don't know anything THIS is just a thought but not knowing, can you see this?

Yes, I can see this but I never said that the thoughts know anything. I said those thoughts appeared.

The thoughts know or the thoughts are also known?

Thoughts are also known.

Is there a wall? Notice that thoughts just say there is a wall, this is just a comment, but not a wall, can you see this?

Yes, I can see this.

Does This know that appear for you?

I don't know.

Is it possible for the empty space to do something to any appearance?

I don't know.

Is it possible for the empty space to become something else, but not space?

I don't know.

Does the empty space have a brain?

I don't know.

Waiting for your response.

Thanks

Regards

Jawad

Hi Jawad,
What you mean with

I don't know.

The questions are very simple and the answer is obvious.
What is difficult for you to see that all answers a NO?
Look again, please!
And write only this that is obvious?

Love
Lubo

Hi Lubo!

I hope you are doing good.

Thanks a lot for your response.

What do you mean by: "I don't know."

By I don't know I mean I don't know If This know appears for me or not. I don't know if space can do anything with any appearance or can not do. I don't know if empty space can become something else or not. I don't know if empty space has a brain or not. I literally and really don't know.

The questions are very simple and the answer is obvious.

According to you what is the answer?

What is difficult for you to see that all answers a NO?

My answer to all of these questions was not "No".

Look again, please!
And write only this that is obvious?

What do you want me to look? And what do you want me to write? What is obvious?

Waiting for your response.

Thanks

Regards

Jawad

Can you describe how exactly you are looking?
Let's do it together.
Notice the sky.
Is there evidence that the sky is here for you? or what is here is just a sky?

Hi Lubo!

I hope you are doing good.

Thanks a lot for your response.

Can you describe how exactly you are looking?

I am not looking. Looking is happening automatically.

Let's do it together.

Sure.

Notice the sky.

OK

Is there evidence that the sky is here for you?

I don't know. But in my direct experience, I can not find any evidence.

what is here is just a sky?

I don't know what that thing is but people call it sky. If that's true then Yes, here is just a sky.

Waiting for your response.

Thanks

Regards

Jawad

Hi Jawad,

Can you describe how exactly you are looking?

I am not looking. Looking is happening automatically.

Nice :) Are there tree things at DE - a lookER, looking and looked?

Is there evidence that the sky is here for you?

I don't know. But in my direct experience, I can not find any evidence.

Yes, there is no evidence, this what the word sky point to is not here for you, is it clear now?

And let's look the first sentence - I don't now - Who is this one which suggests that there is maybe something more then This, then sky? That This is maybe coming for someone?
What is behind this protection ?

Love
Lubo

Hi Lubo!

I hope you are doing good.

Thanks a lot for your response.

Nice :) Are there three things at DE - a lookER, looking, and looked?

No

Yes, there is no evidence, this is what the word sky point to is not here for you, is it clear now?

Yes

And let's look at the first sentence - I don't know - Who is this one which suggests that there is maybe something more than This, then sky? That This is maybe coming for someone?
What is behind this protection?

I did not say that it's not the sky and it's something else or it's something more than this. I said I don't know what is this.

Waiting for your response.

Thanks

Regards

Jawad