My journey

[Ronaldo]

Dear Monika,
Thank you for your answers, yes, this is it...

I noticed this morning that all the thoughts I had so far was about I(Monika) . They were all random. For an example thought and image (Monika) watching t.v . Thought about what will happen in the t.v drama. When I looked at them they disappeared.

As you can see, the story of "me’ can seem to have continuity, but when you look, there are simply isolated thoughts that never can truly touch each other, some of them claiming that there's one continuous story.


What we usually do at this stage of the process is to ask some final questions that I will show to other guides to see if there is anything that we might have missed and that my guiding was clear. Other guides may or may not have further questions for you.

As we discussed, this is not the end at all, this is the first major step in a life-long deepening.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

2) Share in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialog?

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
What makes things happen?
How does it work?
What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.


6) Anything to add?

Regards,
Ron

[Punjab1]

Good evening Ron,

Thank you for sending me some more questions. I do enjoy each work you send me.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?

There is no separate entity or self . It was my belief that I never explore. I really thought I( Monika) did everything. I have got the power to control and do things my way. But now I know I am nowhere . It was just a thought and a belief. I looked for Monika for the first time with Ron. I was so convinced that I was going to find her . But just found images and lots and lots of thoughts about Monika.
There was never any Monika there. Every scene is just happening and thoughts are coming and tagging Monika is doing it.

2) Share in your own words what the illusion of separate self is and how it shows up in experience.

The illusion of separate self is that you live every scene in life very seriously and think you (Monika )are doing everything. As a self you think everything is happening to you. For an example I (Monika) need to run her life, teach kids ,stay happy and strong and on and on. Every little situation was sticking to Monika. I thought It was happening to Monika. All the time I was trying and just busy with everything, I even thought I have to create peace for myself. So much responsibility.

3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialog?

There is no one who can feel that. Everything is still the same-same situations, same people but the stickyness is gone. Thoughts are still coming and sensations are still happening but they don’t belong to Monika now. The person who was feeling hurt and sad is gone. Everything else is still the same. Something has changed but I don’t know what.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you Look?

I don’t know the answer for that. It just happened like other things happens . I just really enjoyed looking and questions I received from Ron. It just happened.

) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
What makes things happen?
How does it work?
What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

Decision, intention, free will choices and control are the things you do as a separate self.
I(Monika) always felt I was making the decisions, everything has got be right . I was trying to control every situation even trying to control my mood as well. But I know now that was all my belief and thoughts.

Since I am doing the looking I experienced that things are just happening without ‘me’. Everything is going on and thoughts are just calming, I ( Monika ) has done it all. I am ( Monika) is not responsible for anything. For an example I go to work in a car. I drive from A to B without Monika in it. At the end of the journey thought comes and label ( Monika) drove the car. Same with other situations things just happening automatically , body is doing all the tasks and thoughts are tagging (Monika) made this decision or monika done this task.

Anything to add?

In the end I just want to say big thanks to LU for the brilliant job they are doing. Because of LU I met my guide(guru) Ron. He made everything so simple. I really enjoyed every second of my journey. Thanks Ron for taking good care of me

Kind regards
Monika

[Ronaldo]

Hi Monika,
Thanks for answering the questions. Language makes communicating these things cumbersome, so I want to make sure you are not missing something, so let's clarify:

R: 3) How does it feel to see this?

M: There is no one who can feel that. Everything is still the same-same situations, same people but the stickyness is gone. Thoughts are still coming and sensations are still happening but they don’t belong to Monika now. The person who was feeling hurt and sad is gone.

When you say "The person who was feeling hurt is gone", what do you mean by that? I.e. was there a person and how is it gone?

Is there a change in seeking? Is there still a desire to figure it all out, watch youtube videos about spirituality etc?

Do you feel content in what has been realized here?

And you did the hard work of looking, I am no guru, I just showed you some street-signs along the way :)

Thank you
Ron

[Punjab1]

Hi Ron,

When you say "The person who was feeling hurt is gone", what do you mean by that? I.e. was there a person and how is it gone?

Sorry Ron, I didn’t make things clear. I mean to say the belief that Monika is doing everything is gone.
Hurt ( sensation) is still there. But the belief Monika is feeling the hurt is gone.

Is there a change in seeking? Is there still a desire to figure it all out, watch youtube videos about spirituality etc?

No Ron, there are no desires now. After so many years I listened to my favourite songs today rather than watching spiritual stuff. All good.

Do you feel content in what you have realized here?

Yes, no doubt about that

I will always be grateful to you Ron
Thanks
Monika

[Ronaldo]

Dear Monika,

Other guides have no further questions for you. It has been a genuine pleasure to explore the concept of the separate self with you. Thank you for being open and willing to look.

Keep an eye out for an email notification from the forum inviting you to join our aftercare groups on Facebook. Your username will change from green to blue which indicates that you have had the realization of there being no separate self. This thread will be moved to the ‘Archive’ section of the forum, and you will be able to access it with the same link as your thread.

Please don’t forget that this is a beginning. There are many more beliefs, patterns and conditionings that need further looking to help them dissolve. So never stop looking if you want things to deepen, there will be times of clarity and times of confusion, always treat yourself kindly <3

You know how to contact me.
All the best
Ron