The Gate

Please go ahead sir, whatever been asked to observe last time is in process and would be replied soon. There had been a heavy work office, worked more than 36 hours continuously so there was an hindrance. Please bare with the procrastinating responses. Have a safe travel.

Dear Steve,
From the waking to till sleep, one's psyche projected all the day instead of seeing what is happening or what is? Unless one's psyche is ended completely until then there is no freedom from the false "I". Any external entity, it could be a person or book or other can proclaim that there is no "I", in the light of attention, that should be discovered as a living fact. Somehow network of experiences entangled as memories which are interfering with the present, that entanglement should be united with the undived attention.

As you asked previously when one is smelling something, the smell very moment is true, but identifying with the words or judging is psyche, that movement should be recognized fully, that recognizes entangles.

When one sees something with the eyes, being recognized is an obstruction to seeing the actual thing existing in the very moment, one should end it by confronting the recognition with the attention.

There is no freedom the false "I" unless one is completely honest and sincere while paying attention to the sprouting of the experience relentlessly.

Thanks very much for your guidance.

Hi Rami,

Nice to see you again! If you can post more frequently, then we can get this done. A bit of intensity in the inquiry helps enormously.

From the waking to till sleep, one's psyche projected all the day instead of seeing what is happening or what is? Unless one's psyche is ended completely until then there is no freedom from the false "I".

First, a small point about the words 'false "I"'. I just want to make sure you don't think there is a true "I". We are definitely NOT pointing to any kind of true "I" or higher self.

Unless one's psyche is ended completely until then there is no freedom from the false "I".
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There is no freedom the false "I" unless one is completely honest and sincere while paying attention to the sprouting of the experience relentlessly.

I want to make this absolutely clear: What you are saying here is NOT TRUE. It is NOT necessary to end your psyche or pay attention relentlessly. If you believe this, then this belief will stand in your way.

This process is very simple. When you feel that there is an "I" you simply look WITH THE SENSES and see if you can find the thing that the thoughts are referring to. Do this whenever you remember to.

That is all you need to do. Once you have seen it clearly, the process will take care of itself.

It is simply a matter of learning how to see the reality that "I" is not there, and that you have been making it up all along.

My job is to keep you focused and to make sure you are focused on the right things. This is why you should be writing to me regularly.

Now let's get focused. I have two questions for you:

1. What do you think that going through the gateless gate will be like? How will things be different to how they are now?
2. Tell me one way in which you currently believe there is some kind of "I".


Steve

If you can post more frequently, then we can get this done. A bit of intensity in the inquiry helps enormously.

Correct.

First, a small point about the words 'false "I"'. I just want to make sure you don't think there is a true "I". We are definitely NOT pointing to any kind of true "I" or higher self.

Metaphorically if it is said that there is no ghost then that doesn't mean that opposite of it(god) exists. There is no "I", that's all. As long as there are the concepts of higher self, pure "I" means, that is another kind of trap. Higher self, atman, pure "I" all are mere words. Another kind of traps.

It is NOT necessary to end your psyche or pay attention relentlessly. If you believe this, then this belief will stand in your way.

Then how to be free from the psychological conflicts, psyche is causing separate self(all the intellect) in the very first place. Because of the psyche(experiences, memories, fear, emotions etc) memories are being played as expectations or fears etc. If there is no end to the play of intellects or experiences then how does the freedom from the false "I"? So-called "I" is just a word, it's just like handle attached to the memories or experiences or etc. This experience of false entity("I") happens with respect to something knowingly or unknowingly, and it seems it doesn't exist independently.

1. What do you think that going through the gateless gate will be like? How will things be different to how they are now?

There is no room for false. Just now.

2. Tell me one way in which you currently believe there is some kind of "I".

Cling onto the name was given to the body and believing in the relations is one of the examples

Hi Rami,

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Then how to be free from the psychological conflicts, psyche is causing separate self(all the intellect) in the very first place.

It's an illusion, and it needs to be taken apart in a certain way. If you follow my instructions, you will get there.

If there is no end to the play of intellects or experiences then how does the freedom from the false "I"?

There will never be an end to the playing out of a conceptual world, because that is how human beings function. The only thing that can change is whether the idea of "me" is believed to be real or not.

A rainbow looks like colours suspended in the air. But if you look carefully you will see that it is a product of the interaction of light and water. The illusion has been seen through... but the rainbow looks exactly the same as it did before.

Thought is a maze that has no exit so you are condemned to be trapped in it forever. But the walls are not real and never have been.

There is no room for false. Just now.

Good!

Cling onto the name was given to the body and believing in the relations is one of the examples

Q1: What do you mean by "relations"?

Q2: The names of real things always point to something that can be found in the senses. Say your name. What does your name refer to?

Use all of your senses and search everywhere in direct experience. Can you find what it refers to?

I want you to tell me in detail where you looked and what you found.


Steve

I'm taking a break from my phone so I'll be offline for three days.

Q1: What do you mean by "relations"?

The relation is nothing but taking the external entity or object as "part of"my self" or as "my self".

Q2: The names of real things always point to something that can be found in the senses. Say your name. What does your name refer to?

Names and words are the sound representation(virtual representation) of physical objects and their characteristics. The name(Rami) is given to the body and behavior associated with it


If you wouldn't mind then is it possible to meet you in person.

Hi Rami,

The name(Rami) is given to the body and behavior associated with it

Is there a "you" that is responsible for the behaviour? Where?
Are you the body, or are you in the body? Where?

If you wouldn't mind then is it possible to meet you in person.

I live in Manawatu, New Zealand so if you are there then I can meet you. Or are you talking about a video chat?


Steve

Is there a "you" that is responsible for the behaviour? Where?

When somebody calls the name "Rami" and attention is being diverted to the source of the call spontaneously. Completely oblivious to the source or the center of this "I"?

I live in Manawatu, New Zealand so if you are there then I can meet you. Or are you talking about a video chat?

Would like to meet you in Manawatu, but not in the near future. It is quite expensive to travel from Bengaluru, India to there. So it takes a few months to come there. If it is feasible for you to take an occasional video chat then it would be nice. Perhaps there would be many "Rami's" for you to assist, so it's not mandatory. It is very much fine with the text conversation also in case of difficulties in video chatting.

Hi Rami,

I'd love to meet you! I have been to Bengaluru before. It was a long time ago - 1993. I had a great time there. One thing I remember was a shop called Mac Fast Food where you could get pizza, hamburgers and fish and chips.

When somebody calls the name "Rami" and attention is being diverted to the source of the call spontaneously. Completely oblivious to the source or the center of this "I"?

That's great observation. Is there anything there in that place where "I" is believed to be other than sensations and thoughts about "me"?

This is what we need to do no. Please tell me how you think "I" is experienced and l will get you to look there with all of your senses. We need to keep doing this until you are sure that "I" is not an actual thing that can be found.

So, please tell me more about what remains of a believed sense of "I".

If you need a question to help you, then use this: what does the word "I" refer to?


Steve

I'd love to meet you! I have been to Bengaluru before. It was a long time ago - 1993. I had a great time there. One thing I remember was a shop called Mac Fast Food where you could get pizza, hamburgers and fish and chips.

Wow! I born around the same time:)(see sir, here I am referring to my self as the body. Through the culture and surrounding learned my self as body and mind, never questioned that assumption while learning.)

This is what we need to do no. Please tell me how you think "I" is experienced and l will get you to look there with all of your senses. We need to keep doing this until you are sure that "I" is not an actual thing that can be found.

Everything is taken as true such as language, "so-called I" but it is being seen nothing is there, language is just the composition of the sounds(words) in particular order and those orders taken true and without verifying the truthfulness those orders. It is the same in the case of "I".

What is the difference between a dead body and the living body? What is the source of attention, how does attention come into existence?

Hi Rami,

Everything is taken as true such as language, "so-called I" but it is being seen nothing is there, language is just the composition of the sounds(words) in particular order and those orders taken true and without verifying the truthfulness those orders. It is the same in the case of "I".

Here is what you need to do:
It is absolutely essential that you make yourself look. When a "so-called I" turns up, look at it as if you have found a strange object on the ground and you want to know what it is. **Use all of the senses** - just like you would with an unfamiliar object. I cannot stress this enough. Does this language of "I" refer to anything that is actually found?

You must resist the temptation to say to yourself, "Oh, I already know that that is not found." You MUST look again.

What is the difference between a dead body and the living body? What is the source of attention, how does attention come into existence?

I don't know. In this inquiry we approach this question from the point of view of experience. You can't find anything out about dead bodies but you do have direct access to a living one.

Look directly at the source of attention. What do you find there?


Steve