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Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:54 am
by Ilona
Ok, what I ask you is to look at experience and talk from experience. At this point question why only creates more stories from the limited perspective, so there is no point to that.

So what is the I? What is me? What is self? Is there a separation? Answer with full honesty only what feels 100% true. No theories, but observation.

Sending love.

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:45 pm
by MerlinC
I,me,self are all ideas that make us see are selfs as separate individuals. Yes there is most defendantly seperation, alienation & not being fulfilled at almost every turn. I, holds baggage of ideas about a person that can only be found in my minds eye. Storys about my past behaviors and what kind of person that makes me but I still have attachments to some of those ideas about me even if thare not true. I once believed I was one of the best artists that ever walked the earth and I thought I was better then everybody. I had realised that I wasn't and then it felt as though I had more space to think it was amazing but I wasn't satisfied later on because I didn't know who I was anymore. is awakening the answer to that problem?

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:21 pm
by Ilona
Haha, awakening is not an answer to any problems. It does not fix anything and does not change personality. It's simply seeing the truth- there is no separation.

Awakening is seeing that there is no one here to own problems.
Is there a separation if you don't think about it?

There are thoughts about separation, but no separation in reality.

Thoughts do not have to be about real. They can be about imaginary as well.
Is it true?

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:11 am
by MerlinC
If I dont think about it, things just are. And its absolutely true you can keep in your mind any thought of any nature so long as you believe in them. can personality egsist without the story?

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:31 am
by Ilona
Good question.
Look at a personality, what is it made of? Is it real?

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:26 pm
by MerlinC
personality is the self image of are selfs we project in the world so we can feel as if we were special, so we can be liked. its all very fake because its trying to hard to be cool or liked. all it is is image that people indentify with and get lost in.

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:50 pm
by Ilona
Ok, do cats, dogs, little babies have a personality?
Is personality fake?
Dig here a little. :)

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:53 am
by MerlinC
ha ok so theres that kind of personality Im confusing with ones ego but even the stones on the ground have personaltys there is simple beauty in all things an awness.

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:06 pm
by Ilona
Take a closer look at the ego, is there a real ego? What happens if you change word ego with character?
what makes up character?
Is there a character if there is no story about it?
This moment, right now, is it here?

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:39 pm
by MerlinC
well ego is the narrator or voice that claims to be the person experiencing life. charactor is the reherced story one tells them selfs and expressis in life so thare the samething. but ther is expression anyways in all things without ego like a baby or a cat thats just doing ther thing without expectations out of ther behaviors they just are being. charactor exist but in the same way batman exists in a highly tended to lie so it maybe believable but falls away when looking for it. It just isn't thare just an over reactive imagination.

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:15 pm
by Ilona
well ego is the narrator or voice that claims to be the person experiencing life
is it? is there an ego that narrates or just thoughts passing by about ego being narrator? is that voice ego? take a closer look.
charactor is the reherced story
this does not make sense either. character is what the story is about, or is it the story itself? how about story about character Batman? is batman a story or is story about batman, can you see a difference here?

what is it that tells the story??

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:45 am
by MerlinC
No I; just thoughts about an I. when I say charactor Im refering to the story one says to himself to be true about himself. I am this I am that. I am good I am Bad. I am labels so I can fit somewere in society. all of it ideas just like batman not really thar untell you string enoufe back story together to make the illusion that its real. I am not the man I use to be because my thoughts about myself and life have changed. But doesn't confirm that I am what I think about other then I think tharefore I am. Wither the storys be true or not. ther is a presence in my body that says I live and thats what I grown to understand is me everything else is mind marbles.

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:43 am
by Ilona
Mind marbles :)
Hehe


Do you exist?

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:26 pm
by MerlinC
sorry for the wait but yes I do egsist

Re: Of you are ready, come in..

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:22 pm
by Ilona
What is it that I is referring to in your answer?