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[s-p-a-c-e]

If Andy never Lived, Andy can not die, so I do not feel that I am a murder to blame for Andys dissapearancec ;)
The imposter has been detected and is now gone, he left as soon as I tried to look at him; one moment he was here, the next gone without a trace.

Quite. :)

To try to sum it all up I'd say; I get it but I don't see it, or I see it but I don't get it...
Still my "experience of mySelf" only last for a few seconds at a time, after that Andy kicks back in.

What kicks back in?

Takk,
John

[SandViking]

Goodmorning ;)

What kicks back in?
My "Andy perspective" kicks back in; on the third breath Andy resurrect. ;)
In other words; thoughts kicks back in, the thoughts that kicks in are thoughts that "gives me" the perspektive of Andy.

When I look for myself I find nothing; this "calms the mind" and "change my perspektive" - a marked change compared to just a few seconds ago. But after a few seconds the mind starts up again and "my perspektive" turns back to "Andys perspektive".

Thank you!
Andy

[s-p-a-c-e]

Goodmorning ;)

What kicks back in?
My "Andy perspective" kicks back in; on the third breath Andy resurrect. ;)
In other words; thoughts kicks back in, the thoughts that kicks in are thoughts that "gives me" the perspektive of Andy.

When I look for myself I find nothing; this "calms the mind" and "change my perspektive" - a marked change compared to just a few seconds ago. But after a few seconds the mind starts up again and "my perspektive" turns back to "Andys perspektive".

Thank you!
Andy

And do you have a problem with that?

Takk,
John

[SandViking]

yes I do, its enough being 1 ;)

thanks,
andy

[s-p-a-c-e]

yes I do, its enough being 1 ;)

But you can live with it? :)

/john

[SandViking]

Hehe, I can live with many things that are not excacty as I want.
So this is it, then?

Thanks,
Andy

[s-p-a-c-e]

Hehe, I can live with many things that are not excacty as I want.
So this is it, then?

You can see Andy is made up, and you continue to identify as Andy.

Do you just like acting or something? :)

/John

[SandViking]

Thanks for your reply :)

You can see Andy is made up, and you continue to identify as Andy.

Do you just like acting or something? :)
Yes :) It's a roll I can not stop playing for more than a few seconds at the time :(
Will meditation weaken the Andy roll?

Thank you very much!
Andy

[s-p-a-c-e]

Thanks for your reply :)

You can see Andy is made up, and you continue to identify as Andy.

Do you just like acting or something? :)
Yes :) It's a roll I can not stop playing for more than a few seconds at the time :(
Will meditation weaken the Andy roll?

I asked if you could live with it because no-one gets this who is ok with the status quo.
Why would you leave a place you know and is known, and all the benefits of that?

Yes, there's no-one to get this blahblahblah. :)

But to get real for a moment, you are stuck.

Question is whether you are that bothered to see who applied the glue?

Not really sure whether you are willing to see that Andy is not something that happens by accident, by habit.

Hmmmmm.

/john

[SandViking]

Thanks for your reply! :)

But to get real for a moment, you are stuck.

Question is whether you are that bothered to see who applied the glue?
hmmm... strange question. Why do you think I am talking with you?

Not really sure whether you are willing to see that Andy is not something that happens by accident, by habit.
Ok, what makes you say that?
I am doing my part in this as good as I can, so unless you are looking to create a respons, that statement is totally unappropriate.

Who else than me can it be that applied the glue?
What makes you doubt my willingness to see that Andy is a habit?

So who is this Andy who gives a shit about what other people think and believe?
Nobody... aha, ok....
Now what?

Who cares if somebody doubt Andy?
Nobody... aha, ok...
Now what?

Who applies the glue?
I am, and I am nobody.... aha, ok....
So what?

Nobody is perfect and
I am nobody... ;)

Something I learned in forex trading: "When in doubt, stay out!"
So maybe we should end this if you doubt me, trust is the foundation of any "human activity", so when the trust is gone the foundation goes aswell....

Thanks for your help, it has been fun :)
Kind regards,
Andy

[s-p-a-c-e]

Andy,

You see the reaction. This is what I wanted you to see.

Takk,
John

[s-p-a-c-e]

Oh, it has been fun. :)

Be well,
John

[SandViking]

Thanks for your replies!

Yes, I showed you the reaction, but is this really it?
Is this the way I should see everything?
And is it this looking at everything this way that will change my habbit point of view?
Or did you just point me around and around because you doubted me or didn't trust me?
Both alternatives seems plauseble at the moment.

If you don't trust me or doubt in me that's perfectly fine because you should; I am not for real.
But if you dont trust or doubt my intentions for doing this, you are wrong.
Why? Because there is really just one of us here.... its just you writing with your self or only me typing these words to myself; dependent on the perspective ;)

Hehe, strange how Andy's pride made your point :)
I think he got so angry that he blew up :D
But, 3 months ago he wold not have written down "his" thoughts nor reflected; "he" would just get very angry and type a bunch of nasty words and never return to this site again :)

This experience really made it all clear to I :)
It was obvious to me that the reaction I got when reading your message was not me, it didn't even feel like it for more than a second (tops). Then I just used Andy to start the typing and the rest you have read.

If my assumption is correct, what I am supposed to do now is every time I forget who I am, or lose my perspective, is to remind myself of this, by the form of questions (NOT affirmations)?

Many thanks for a wonderful experience :)
Andy

[s-p-a-c-e]

Thanks for your replies!

Yes, I showed you the reaction, but is this really it?
Is this the way I should see everything?
And is it this looking at everything this way that will change my habbit point of view?
Or did you just point me around and around because you doubted me or didn't trust me?
Both alternatives seems plauseble at the moment.

If you don't trust me or doubt in me that's perfectly fine because you should; I am not for real.
But if you dont trust or doubt my intentions for doing this, you are wrong.
Why? Because there is really just one of us here.... its just you writing with your self or only me typing these words to myself; dependent on the perspective ;)

Hehe, strange how Andy's pride made your point :)
I think he got so angry that he blew up :D
But, 3 months ago he wold not have written down "his" thoughts nor reflected; "he" would just get very angry and type a bunch of nasty words and never return to this site again :)

This experience really made it all clear to I :)
It was obvious to me that the reaction I got when reading your message was not me, it didn't even feel like it for more than a second (tops). Then I just used Andy to start the typing and the rest you have read.

If my assumption is correct, what I am supposed to do now is every time I forget who I am, or lose my perspective, is to remind myself of this, by the form of questions (NOT affirmations)?

Many thanks for a wonderful experience :)
Andy

Hi Andy,

Thanks for continuing. This is not about doubt or trust at all. There is a mirror here for you to use, for as long as it serves a purpose. That mirror may provoke, celebrate, share. The intent is positive.

You have seen Andy as a mental task, and what's behind the habitual 'andy' are embodied habits and perspectives that have come along with it, which are still running.

You can leave these habits by detaching, and watching 'Andy' from 'afar'. That's one way.
Or you can inquire directly and learn something new and valuable.

For example, in the morning, when you wake up as 'Andy', and then re-focus to establish a new perspective, say, as awareness, all that happens is that you lose another opportunity to learn about this configuration called 'Andy' (from the inside), to see what its made of, how it comes about.

So next time, stay there as 'Andy'. Of course, you won't exactly, because the act of noticing it has already shifted the perspective. But all I'm saying is, don't detach all the way out, stay inside 'Andy' but with enough detachment to observe precisely.

Look closely, and see if there is anything here persistent?
Is there anything that doesn't come and go?
Is there any ground at all to this 'self'?
Is there any way that you may be sustaining this habit?
When you feel an 'Andy' feeling, note that the feeling doesn't make itself 'Andy'.

Explore as you wish, and share any discoveries. No need to answer each question, just share what you find out.

Takk,
Jjohn

[SandViking]

ok, thanks, will report back tomorrow :)

Thanks,
Andy