Hi.

[Miguel]

i KNOW what you ae telling about but its only knowing.

For me now the most important think is to jump in to the direct experience. But its not easy and frustating.

[Miguel]

theres a big obstacle in front of me now. Cant jump from knowing to direct experience.please!

[Miguel]

This "self" is trying to avoid this moment. Not easy for me to stay here inquiring. Feel nervous.

[Elizabeth]

This "self" is trying to avoid this moment. Not easy for me to stay here inquiring. Feel nervous.

Good. Good.
Don't look away from anything.
This is the only thing.
It took a lifetime to get here. Now LOOK.

[Miguel]

I see my self in front of the swimmingpool of reality. But i cant jump from knowing to direct experience.Cant get the "click".

The feeling is like being trapped in the net of ilusion. Can almost see it. Doesnt want to dissapear.

And i got a little cold today and make things more difficult cz im not 100% "active".

I do the exercices and try to look but all i get is glimpses and mental understanding of what you tell me.

Will keep sticking with it or maybe i need more help.

When you tell me "LOOK"...dont know how to do it or what to do.

[Elizabeth]

I see my self in front of the swimmingpool of reality. But i cant jump from knowing to direct experience.Cant get the "click".

The feeling is like being trapped in the net of ilusion. Can almost see it. Doesnt want to dissapear.

And i got a little cold today and make things more difficult cz im not 100% "active".

I do the exercices and try to look but all i get is glimpses and mental understanding of what you tell me.

Will keep sticking with it or maybe i need more help.

When you tell me "LOOK"...dont know how to do it or what to do.

It seems we all say this at one time or other.
Seems like humans have the hardest time doing something that is completely simple.
So this is the practice. You can wear out all the ways that don't work to finally arrive at simple looking. Perfectly fine way.
Or just Look. Don't expect the earth to move, it may not.
VERY SIMPLE. Nothing extra. Look.
Much love, Miguel. I am here for the rest of the day.







Either is good.

[Miguel]

Honestly, i dont know what im i supossed to do. I dont know how to look, where to look,what to do...
Feel so stucked.Longing for the last days experiences...

Now i dont know how to continue. This is too confusing....

[Miguel]

And i know that experiences happens to an "i" and they come and go and they are not the final point.

I want to dissolve the "i", or the believe that the "i" is a real thing , or my identification with that "i".

Im getting stucked in lot of mental stuff and dont know how to find a key and open the door. I think im gonna get a headache

[Miguel]

What im i supossed to do now Elizabeth? Maybe to look will be your answer...but its not easy for me.

[Miguel]

Should i practice the exercices again and again?

[Elizabeth]

Should i practice the exercices again and again?

Let's try some things.
You are typing. The fingers are typing the words. The words are coming from where?
And don't say the thoughts. Are there really thoughts typing?
Check out how this is happening, in your DIRECT experience.

Stop typing. Move your hand to the left.
How did the hand move?
And don't say the thoughts decided. Are thoughts really deciding?
Check out how this is happening without the explanations you usually use, the self labelling and taking the ownership of all of it.
Without talking about the self, is there a choice happening? Or just moving?

There is something to be discovered in these things.

[Miguel]

You are typing. The fingers are typing the words. The words are coming from where?
And don't say the thoughts. Are there really thoughts typing?
Check out how this is happening, in your DIRECT experience.

Words just happens and dont know from where do they come from.
But its clear to me that seems to be toughts thinking the words also.It happens. They dont write the words cz writing just happens by itslef but those toughts are there and help me to thing what i wanna write. But the action just happens and toughts are part of that action.

Stop typing. Move your hand to the left.
How did the hand move?
And don't say the thoughts decided. Are thoughts really deciding?
Check out how this is happening without the explanations you usually use, the self labelling and taking the ownership of all of it.
Without talking about the self, is there a choice happening? Or just moving?

It happens by itself. The toghts dont decide but soemtimes there can be thoughts thinking "im moving my hand" or not.

Just moving and no choice or at least theres no me who decides. Decision happens also.

Theres the ilusion that the self decides and all that stuff.

[Miguel]

Action happens and there seems to be toughts that appears and want the ownership of that action, to create the ilusion that they have some responsability in the action. But action and toughts happens by itself. But theres the tendency to believe that thoughts has power over the action. Theres this atachment yet. So i guess that for the moments i have glimpses and a knowing of this reality.

[Elizabeth]

Action happens and there seems to be toughts that appears and want the ownership of that action, to create the ilusion that they have some responsability in the action. But action and toughts happens by itself. But theres the tendency to believe that thoughts has power over the action. Theres this atachment yet. So i guess that for the moments i have glimpses and a knowing of this reality.

Good. You've got it. That is it, you are looking right at it. Keep looking at it as you move around. All day, keep checking this out. In any moment, check to see if a self is running the show, in reality. Or is life just living itself? Moving and responding? Self talks about it, life happens of itself? Check for truth.
Remember, except for the tool of process thoughts, there is not much to actually think about. The rest of it...you tell me what the rest of it does, OK?
Look at it. How much of a self is truly needed in everything you do this day?
That's how you you see through the illusion of a separate self that runs things. You look at how life actually is. In each moment. Not about, not the chat in your head. What is happening in the moment by moment life. Hand moved. Eyes followed. Thought happens.
Don't let the voices in your head talk you out of it. You are there. Look.

[Elizabeth]

This from another thread, Ilona speaking:
'there is nothing to be removed. i is still here, only belief that there is some entity 'me' is seen for what it is- a belief. and very impractical one. it's unquestioned assumption, question it and you will find the answer which you already know. '

The sense of an I will not go away. Just the belief.
"Find the answer you already know" Keep looking at it till you see what is there. That's all.