Its not that im trying to make anything automatic; it was just that i'd noticed that the old way of 'reacting' ie: oh my god, panic/ worry about something.. Usually with an i attached in there somewhere, and this new view on things requires a breakdown using the 6 sense streams. So in an instance, before it would have all been automatic and having / using the breakdown is not automatic. Do you think automatically in the sense that there is now no i, just experience in replace of your old way? I can see and agree that there is nothing but experience via the senses, just not automatic...
I feel im at a point where i can see a choice in moments/situations whatever. Either the slanted view of 'oh its happening to me' or theres room for that breakdown and you get the experience rather that the head load. Theres no i or who choosing, watching etc. I dont know what it is... So answering your last Q: is there a me/tara? No :-)
Its hard to put into words sometimes. :-/
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Hey,
Tara is the name given to a Buddha, which is the embodiment of Wisdom in the Mahayana Buddhist tradition. She is literally the embodiment of Wisdom of all the Buddhas, past, present, and future. Thus... I have high expectations of you. Pressure? Good :)
Even after seeing no-self, there is conditioning, a sort of 'old ways happening' or 'old ways of reacting'. Regardless, what is clear is that there is separate self, or entity.
Even when experience is not broken down via the 6 sense streams, or when it is... regardless... there is no self. there never was, there never will be.
Regardless of whatever point you are in anything... there is no You :)
I'm just trying to get a sense of where you are at with this investigation directly. Do you feel you have any doubts? Talk to me directly please.
Tara is the name given to a Buddha, which is the embodiment of Wisdom in the Mahayana Buddhist tradition. She is literally the embodiment of Wisdom of all the Buddhas, past, present, and future. Thus... I have high expectations of you. Pressure? Good :)
Even after seeing no-self, there is conditioning, a sort of 'old ways happening' or 'old ways of reacting'. Regardless, what is clear is that there is separate self, or entity.
Even when experience is not broken down via the 6 sense streams, or when it is... regardless... there is no self. there never was, there never will be.
Regardless of whatever point you are in anything... there is no You :)
I'm just trying to get a sense of where you are at with this investigation directly. Do you feel you have any doubts? Talk to me directly please.
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I get that there is no i... Never has or will be. I feel void or like i just looked straight into madusa's eyes! There isnt any words in this moment...
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Are there any doubts at all? If so, we can address them now.
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Not so much doubt... Theres no doubt that i doesnt exist. Just an unknowing. Is it really just as simple as the stuff we have mentioned? What is real? Is it only 'real' when its within our experience? Experience including thought. Thoughts u have and i have. They may not be the same, but they must stem from the same place..?
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Was just writing as it came then. :-)
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There are several Facebook groups for all of your concerns, and I would be happy to dialogue with you about all of that... But, priority at the moment is confirming you.
What we are checking if here is any doubts about a separate self/doer/'I'. Keep Lookig and keep checking and when you have no doubts about this, I can ask you the final questions. Let me know when ready:)
So... Keep Looking, Keep Seeing. Life is flowing... An alive seamless flow of experience with no separate self whatsoever :)
Talk soon.
What we are checking if here is any doubts about a separate self/doer/'I'. Keep Lookig and keep checking and when you have no doubts about this, I can ask you the final questions. Let me know when ready:)
So... Keep Looking, Keep Seeing. Life is flowing... An alive seamless flow of experience with no separate self whatsoever :)
Talk soon.
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And those Facebook groups are all by LU... And you wilbe able to access all of them once confirmed. Sorry I don't think I made that clear in the above post. Basically, we are here for you, before gate and after the gate. :)
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Thanks neil. :-)
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no Thanks yet...
How is it going Tara?
How is it going Tara?
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Hey!
Can we proceed? I've done nothing but look at situations and bodily stuff since i last spoke with you.... Everything is in thought. Everything i see, say, do.... i have found it all in thought.
Tara
Can we proceed? I've done nothing but look at situations and bodily stuff since i last spoke with you.... Everything is in thought. Everything i see, say, do.... i have found it all in thought.
Tara
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Yes, we can,
do You exist? what is reading this sentence?
do You exist? what is reading this sentence?
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Hi there,
I doesnt exist. I dont exist, its a thought, a word.
Who is reading? There is no who. Its still just thought. A thought about each word, then a thought on the sentence.
I doesnt exist. I dont exist, its a thought, a word.
Who is reading? There is no who. Its still just thought. A thought about each word, then a thought on the sentence.
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Tara,
so here are the final questions. Take your time and answer honestly and as fully as you can.
After you do, your answers will be reviewed by other guides to Confirm your Seeing. They may have additional questions, and if so, I will ask them from you. Go ahead:
1) Is there a 'me', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever? Will there ever be?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.
3) How does it feel to see this? describe in detail.
4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion but is curious about it.
5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? was there a specific moment when seeing happened or was it gradual? what exactly happened?
6) describe the difference before seeing, at the moment of seeing, and after seeing?
7) in what ways has thing changed your life? what impact will this have on your life?
8) what if i told you LU was a persuasion cult and we have just got you to believe that "there is no self". How would you respond?
9) do you have any comments about my guiding, what you feel was effective, and what was not so effective, and why?
so here are the final questions. Take your time and answer honestly and as fully as you can.
After you do, your answers will be reviewed by other guides to Confirm your Seeing. They may have additional questions, and if so, I will ask them from you. Go ahead:
1) Is there a 'me', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever? Will there ever be?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works.
3) How does it feel to see this? describe in detail.
4) How would you describe it to somebody who has never heard about this illusion but is curious about it.
5) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? was there a specific moment when seeing happened or was it gradual? what exactly happened?
6) describe the difference before seeing, at the moment of seeing, and after seeing?
7) in what ways has thing changed your life? what impact will this have on your life?
8) what if i told you LU was a persuasion cult and we have just got you to believe that "there is no self". How would you respond?
9) do you have any comments about my guiding, what you feel was effective, and what was not so effective, and why?
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1) Before this are area was brought into focus, there was a very strong belief that there to the fact that I is just another thought, there’s a realisation that there never actually was and I. There isn’t now and there isn’t ever going to be. Its all just thought.
2) Right from a very young age is when separateness is introduced to us; it’s enforced on a daily basis everyday. Everyday until you start questioning things. We think we are separate from everyone else and think we can control life. I seems to take ownership of things and that’s how we end up suffering because it then feels personal. Once you realise that I is just a thought, it can only be that, its not Who we are, its just how we have been taught to deal with I.
3) It feels really good to realise this, things don’t really matter so much and you can learn more because your so much more open to the experience of whatever’s going on. It brings about more awareness of how things feel and what is creating the feeling.
4) I would ask someone if they have ever asked what they are, why they think it and then introduce the idea that who they thing they are could all be an illusion. Id tell them about the Sense streams that they can use aswell.
5) Seeing this had definitely been a gradual thing, its been hard and there are still times when checking in and remembering is really important. Some exercised which I was asked to do really really helped in the final bit (it feels funny saying final bit… it seems this will be an on going thing! ) of realising that everything is an experience and in most cases with a thought attached to it.
6) Before seeing this it was quite smoggy looking back. Things would sometimes bother ‘me’ for days. There was no release of negative thoughts. Now things are resolved much quicker because they are approached differently after looking at them.
7) For the moment, there’s not really a change in life, its all still happening, but things are clearer and seem much less of a strife. There’s no saying how it’s going to affect the future, because I really don’t know.
8) Haha…. I would laugh and say Thank You!
9) The guiding was very good and straight to the point. It left little room for straying off, but could have helped if there was some room for questions… It was no hindrance that there wasn’t this room though.
2) Right from a very young age is when separateness is introduced to us; it’s enforced on a daily basis everyday. Everyday until you start questioning things. We think we are separate from everyone else and think we can control life. I seems to take ownership of things and that’s how we end up suffering because it then feels personal. Once you realise that I is just a thought, it can only be that, its not Who we are, its just how we have been taught to deal with I.
3) It feels really good to realise this, things don’t really matter so much and you can learn more because your so much more open to the experience of whatever’s going on. It brings about more awareness of how things feel and what is creating the feeling.
4) I would ask someone if they have ever asked what they are, why they think it and then introduce the idea that who they thing they are could all be an illusion. Id tell them about the Sense streams that they can use aswell.
5) Seeing this had definitely been a gradual thing, its been hard and there are still times when checking in and remembering is really important. Some exercised which I was asked to do really really helped in the final bit (it feels funny saying final bit… it seems this will be an on going thing! ) of realising that everything is an experience and in most cases with a thought attached to it.
6) Before seeing this it was quite smoggy looking back. Things would sometimes bother ‘me’ for days. There was no release of negative thoughts. Now things are resolved much quicker because they are approached differently after looking at them.
7) For the moment, there’s not really a change in life, its all still happening, but things are clearer and seem much less of a strife. There’s no saying how it’s going to affect the future, because I really don’t know.
8) Haha…. I would laugh and say Thank You!
9) The guiding was very good and straight to the point. It left little room for straying off, but could have helped if there was some room for questions… It was no hindrance that there wasn’t this room though.
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