liberation

[sensey]

Hello Becca.

Others won't catch this, no. And, if there is no one here, are there any others?

I am not trying to explain it to others anymore. I tryied to explain to my close friends who are practicing meditation for many years. But it should be experienced not explained. So I stoped trying to explain.
If there is no I there are not others. Just different bodies. And thoughts named them "others". but when i don't experienced that there is no I, it sometimes become a thought that there is no I. and at the same time others appear.

Is there doubt in seeing that there is no separate self at all, never has been and never will be? Or is this simply a thought?

sometimes it is just a thought. sometimes I see it as experience. other time it can be just a thought. as I understand I should look deeper in experience but not just belive a thoughts?

About what to do to go deeper, I could give you a very thorough series of questions and we can see if we can uncover any gaps in clear seeing... :)

it would be nice if it is time for it :)

Out of curiosity, what is your native language?

Russian.

[graceabounds]

When others appear, is there you here and someone else over there, in direct experience, before the story sticks?
Or are there just colours, sounds, sensations, and thought saying “that’s another person”?
Can you find any “entity” behind the face, or only colours-shapes-sounds + a thought saying “that’s another person”? Look right now. where is the border between “me” and “others,” except in narration?

as I understand I should look deeper in experience but not just belive a thoughts?

Well thoughts don’t stop, so the thought appearing is not really a problem if you can look underneath and see that it is not true. See through it…
Is this the case?


There are always people here waiting for guides to speak to who may be open to looking in this way. Some of them are looking for Russian speaking guides should the impulse arise to learn how to shift explaining into experience. ;
:)

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[sensey]

When others appear, is there you here and someone else over there, in direct experience, before the story sticks?
Or are there just colours, sounds, sensations, and thought saying “that’s another person”?

Hi. Yes it is just sensations, colours, and thoughts. in direct experience there is no others and no "I"

Can you find any “entity” behind the face, or only colours-shapes-sounds + a thought saying “that’s another person”? Look right now. where is the border between “me” and “others,” except in narration?

there is a sensations in the body and I don't feel a sensations in other bodies. and there is a thought saying it is my body and there are other bodies. But this is narration. I can't find any entity behind the face.

Well thoughts don’t stop, so the thought appearing is not really a problem if you can look underneath and see that it is not true. See through it…
Is this the case?

yes. that is what I mean

There are always people here waiting for guides to speak to who may be open to looking in this way. Some of them are looking for Russian speaking guides should the impulse arise to learn how to shift explaining into experience.

You are telling about me? that I can guide some people who speak russian in the future if impulse will arise?

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nice to read russian words from you :)

Can you share where are you from Becca? :)

[graceabounds]

Yes.
Once it is clear there is no separate self at all, never has been, never will be, you have all you would need to guide here should that impulse arise. Plus some logistical support to get started. There are forum threads in different languages.

I am in Boston. I studied for a semester in Moscow many years ago. I can read a bit of Russian and understand some, but my vocabulary is rudimentary. :)

Do you have questions? Anything so far seem unclear?

And is seeking energy still present?