Hi,
Are things calming down, any?
Vince's meeting is in 1 hour.
We have a couple of support groups that are meeting via teleconference and I'll give you the information on that.
There are 3 meetings.
Vince Shubert runs one on the weekends. Write to vinceschubert@gmail.com for the link & schedule.
Luchana & Lubo run one on Thursdays. Write to Luchana at luchanauzunova@gmail.com
Ilona holds a monthly meeting. Write admin@ilonaciunaite.com for that link & schedule
Loving ,
Drifting wood
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~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
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I know Ilona I had a single session and I know LuchannaThanks a lot Stacy for being in touch
as soon as I find some time free I'll write to Vincent and by the way I'd love also to see you. do you think we could have a video call? also to express my gratitude for you.
Have a nice Sunday
Pasquale
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Yes. I like responding in the forum because I can do it whenever I like (even 3 am).
But I don't mind meeting you on a teleconference just to meet once. If you're still online, send a link and we could even do it right now.
Loving,
But I don't mind meeting you on a teleconference just to meet once. If you're still online, send a link and we could even do it right now.
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
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~ Adyashanti
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You might want to use the Private Messages link above right.
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This will come and go.and if I ask myself how does it feel?
well yesterday was a sense of calmness and sweet feeling and then I went to sleep
Today I feel there is kind of keep feeling this strange new kind of adjustment in seeing things, knowing that there is no seer
If you can say 100% there is no separate "self," are you ready to answer "final" questions? These are really just a beginning. There is a lot to unlearn once we know there is no "self."
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.
Describe intention & give examples from experience.
Describe free will & give examples from experience.
Describe choice & give examples from experience.
Describe control & give examples from experience.
What makes things happen? How does it work?
What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
6) Anything to add?
Loving,
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
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yesterday was late for me and so I went straight to bed.Hi Stacy,
I'll be back to you after can get some time and listen those question you sent me
I wish you a great week
Pasquale
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Good morning, Pasquale,
Hope you can make time to answer the "final" questions today.
Much love
Hope you can make time to answer the "final" questions today.
Much love
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Dear Stacy
So I'm keep looking and looking for what is that notices that there is no separated entity?
that's the place where I am at the moment
much love
Pasquale
no, doesn't look like there is a me, as a separated entity who lives life and have choices or control of any kind, thwere is nothing real found as a living entity as the owner of sensations. yet I think I got this intellectually because I am not able to answer the rest of your questions.1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
So I'm keep looking and looking for what is that notices that there is no separated entity?
that's the place where I am at the moment
much love
Pasquale
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No. That is not our method here.So I'm keep looking and looking for what is that notices that there is no separated entity?
This is the only pointer Ilona gave me when I was guided here. i practiced this for about 3 months. I call it:
ButtChair
Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.
Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
It is simple direct & nonverbal. Just LOOK.
Then write what is true.
Also, re-read your thread.
Loving,
~ Stacy
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thanks a lot Stacy I'll do thisButtChair
much love
Pasquale
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Good!
Write here what is found. what is true?
Loving,
Write here what is found. what is true?
Loving,
~ Stacy
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"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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Dear Stacy,
It looks like there is no possibility to draw any line, any border between butt and chair, seem to be clear that a border can only imagined but cannot be felt any real distinction. It is an indivisible sensation and seem that all sensations are made of this nature, un-separable. I also tried to press the point of the finger on the table and even though I can see the tip of the finger pressing on the table, yet a border in sensations can only be imagined. what’s experienced is: a sensation that can’t be separated.
I’m keep looking and seem to be from one side a domain of imagination where different pictures, images can be found and their borders, their final shapes. the other domain is the realm of sensations which can’t be separated, only felt. The point is that one domain is imagined so ultimately is a not existing domain in reality.
Keep looking like you beautifully and clearly wrote:
Pasquale
Sharing what’s true in the experience of looking a this . . .I'm looking at what you called "butt chair" and I was also re-read your thread and I do see that is very helpful to write like you strongly suggested, each day, so I'll try to do this from now on
It looks like there is no possibility to draw any line, any border between butt and chair, seem to be clear that a border can only imagined but cannot be felt any real distinction. It is an indivisible sensation and seem that all sensations are made of this nature, un-separable. I also tried to press the point of the finger on the table and even though I can see the tip of the finger pressing on the table, yet a border in sensations can only be imagined. what’s experienced is: a sensation that can’t be separated.
I’m keep looking and seem to be from one side a domain of imagination where different pictures, images can be found and their borders, their final shapes. the other domain is the realm of sensations which can’t be separated, only felt. The point is that one domain is imagined so ultimately is a not existing domain in reality.
Keep looking like you beautifully and clearly wrote:
with gratitudeIt is simple direct & nonverbal. Just LOOK.
Pasquale
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That's beautiful, Pasquale.
Keep looking like that. Notice any expansive, light Sensations of truth.
Awareness will dawn.
Loving
Keep looking like that. Notice any expansive, light Sensations of truth.
Awareness will dawn.
Loving
~ Stacy
"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
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"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."
~ Adyashanti
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_Hi Stacy for some reason it looks like my post of the 24th didn't go through so I'm reposting it
Looking for the border between the soft ball on which I am sit on and the butt and it feels like there is actually no location for the sensation, can’t be located and yet felt. Any location seem to be an assumption.
Also it feels the sensation does’t have a shape that I can draw and yet is full felt.
Trying also with other part fo the body
Feeling the naked feet on the floor and again no distinct line, border can be traced. Can be a shift between feeling it and imagining having picture of the feet on the floor
I also tried the seeing of a cup of coffee and the eyes, if there is any distance in between, any line, border, that can be crossed from the seen, to the eyes and seem to be just seeing. This is more difficult then the other senses
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Yes, no separation. Focus there. Relax into it daily.
Watch for Sensations of lightness & expansion, even when not practicing.
Loving
Watch for Sensations of lightness & expansion, even when not practicing.
Loving
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