Elad: here goes...
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
ANSWER: There is no separate "me." Never was.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
ANSWER: What seems to be true is that the illusory separate self forms around age 2, via conditioning; parents, teachers, community and culture. My recollection of sitting on the back porch after I found my father lying unconscious on the bathroom floor... this "me" identity was formed, or strengthened, with belief structures put in place to protect the "me", who [didn't exist] but seemed like she could be shamed, and felt fear and insecurity.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before we started this dialogue? Please report from the past couple of days.
ANSWER: I saw this before beginning with LU.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over; made you look?
ANSWER: I can't recall a moment in time when I felt pushed over the edge. Awakening for this body-mind looks like a series of drips, or mini self-realizations that operated on the ego, sort of like compound interest. Mooji's Invitation [2 or 3 years ago], took things a little deeper, more grounded, was kind a gentle "ah, ha."
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
ANSWER: Never a decider, no free will, no choice or control. Only a mind that wants to take credit. A thought mechanism at work, jumping in after the fact, saying, "i made that choice."
6) What makes things happen? How does it work?
ANSWER: Life lifes. This Is. No way for a body-mind to really know what "makes things happen."
7) What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
ANSWER: Nothing, really. And yet the body-mind can learn from its experiences. "I" can look [within]. What is seen, felt, experienced can be integrated into the system such that different "choices" occur. It occurred ["out of the blue"] to me to ask my client what her preferred learning style was. She said visual. This system noted that and created a short video for her to summarize something from our previous session.
8) Anything to add? Thank you for this forum. Elad has been wonderful to work with.
Explorer
Re: Explorer
Lovely Alexa!
Can you say if anything has changed during the LU process, and if yes what?
Can you say if anything has changed during the LU process, and if yes what?
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: Explorer
Elad,
Initially I felt confused by this process in LU. Clearly I was overthinking. So I guess I could say that the process highlighted a strong identification with the Thought-Mechanism.
Initially I felt confused by this process in LU. Clearly I was overthinking. So I guess I could say that the process highlighted a strong identification with the Thought-Mechanism.
With Love, Alexa
Re: Explorer
Did it highlight it or didn't it? Why "guess"? What is the reluctance?
And has that "high-lighting" changed anything - if yes what?
And has that "high-lighting" changed anything - if yes what?
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: Explorer
You are correct it did highlight. What changed is deeper grounding.
Thank you Elad and farewell !
Thank you Elad and farewell !
With Love, Alexa
Re: Explorer
Alexa, I am sorry if my questions here felt sharp or unhelpful to you. I admit, after this period of working together, I wanted to hear more about what value this process had had for you.
I will now forward your final question answers to other guides. I know you initially came here with a wish to be able to share seeing more. Becoming part of the graduate community and then guiding, should that call you, could contribute to that.
Thank you for sharings until now.
I will now forward your final question answers to other guides. I know you initially came here with a wish to be able to share seeing more. Becoming part of the graduate community and then guiding, should that call you, could contribute to that.
Thank you for sharings until now.
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: Explorer
Alexa, one guide responded and asked:
Oh, interesting..
"No way for a body-mind to really know what "makes things happen." Can you ask her :
1) How "body-mind" shows up when it is looked at here now in this very moment?
2) What is the direct/actual experience of a "body-mind"?
"Awakening for this body-mind looks like a series of drips,"
3) What is it which is waking up really?
And because she didn't provide any examples of question 5 can you ask:
4) Is coming to the forum, creating a profile, starting a thread something you did? '
I think I love to see the answers 🙂
Oh, interesting..
"No way for a body-mind to really know what "makes things happen." Can you ask her :
1) How "body-mind" shows up when it is looked at here now in this very moment?
2) What is the direct/actual experience of a "body-mind"?
"Awakening for this body-mind looks like a series of drips,"
3) What is it which is waking up really?
And because she didn't provide any examples of question 5 can you ask:
4) Is coming to the forum, creating a profile, starting a thread something you did? '
I think I love to see the answers 🙂
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Re: Explorer
Dear guidees,
I will be taking a month of vacation, including from guiding, from May 26th to June 27th. You might want to use the time until May 26th to inquire with great wholeheartedness and beginners mind, maybe "the Gateless Gate will be passed". You might also want to update both of us on where you are in the process, and what is experienced as your wishes and needs now, if any - happy to hear from you before I leave. If during my vacation you feel a need to be supported by an LU guide, two of my trusted fellow guides will be available. During that period, contacting them might also be an opportunity to the get a different input - we never know what input, what energy, will suddenly make what is clear clear.
Fellow guides:
Alan: alan.home.mailbox@gmail.com
Becca: becca@supportedawakening.com
🙏
I will be taking a month of vacation, including from guiding, from May 26th to June 27th. You might want to use the time until May 26th to inquire with great wholeheartedness and beginners mind, maybe "the Gateless Gate will be passed". You might also want to update both of us on where you are in the process, and what is experienced as your wishes and needs now, if any - happy to hear from you before I leave. If during my vacation you feel a need to be supported by an LU guide, two of my trusted fellow guides will be available. During that period, contacting them might also be an opportunity to the get a different input - we never know what input, what energy, will suddenly make what is clear clear.
Fellow guides:
Alan: alan.home.mailbox@gmail.com
Becca: becca@supportedawakening.com
🙏
With love,
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
Elad
Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children.
- Kahlil Gibran
One gets there by being there.
- Master Woof (Gilbert, Ta Hui)
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