The Gate

Okay, Good work.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

Please can you clarify this one, I don't understand.

Was there a point or an exercise where you SAW instead of just thought there was no self?

What makes things happen? How does it work?
Higher power, Source energy, God

What is the Direct Experience of "Higher power, Source energy, God[."?

LOOK in DE. Can you see what makes thing happen?
Or maybe it is unknowable?


Loving,

Was there a point or an exercise where you SAW instead of just thought there was no self?

Yes during the mirror exercise when the hand moved and I saw this in the mirror but no sensation was linked to this movement to connect the movement to the 'self'.

What is the Direct Experience of "Higher power, Source energy, God[."?

LOOK in DE. Can you see what makes thing happen?
Or maybe it is unknowable?

It is unknowable, for no DE/AE can confirm this.

All good.

Your answers will be shared with other guides who may have questions. Stay tuned!

Loving,

Thank you Stacy, I’ve really enjoyed this process!

Another guide has a question:


Just one thing I'm not clear about.

What is exactly meant by "The labelling of the thoughts are what create a sensory experience of this (smell, taste, sound, sight and sensation). "

Could you ask rav7 to expand on this or clarify this please?

Loving

What is exactly meant by "The labelling of the thoughts are what create a sensory experience of this (smell, taste, sound, sight and sensation). "

Could you ask rav7 to expand on this or clarify this please?

By this I mean that evening noticing the AE is still based upon thoughts which label the experience.

Ravina, he followed up with this:

Rav7 says "noticing the AE is still based upon thoughts"

That statement says to me that there is no AE without thought. Or put another way that AE is dependent on thought.

Please ask if this is what is meant by that statement and if so is that true?

Loving,

Yes that I what I meant by that statement but I now see that you can have AE without thought.

Can you see that it isn't that you "can" have AE without thought?.

AE is different from thought. It is what arises without our doing ot thinking anything. It is this "just happening" that you have in your subject line.

We want to be sure you're seeing this clearly.

Try this:


Nature Exercise

Go out into nature and spend some time watching the movement of the whole. See how clouds move, trees swing, leaves wiggle, grass moves, insects, birds - all move all the time.

Then move focus to sensations and see how they too are in constant motion, thoughts come and go, sounds, colours, sensations come and go.

Notice that everything is part of one movement.

Then close your eyes and see if there is a line between you and out there, between you and life itself.

If yes, where is the boundary?

Is there an inside and an outside of Life?

Is there something which is not included in the movement of the whole?

Is there a witness that is watching life happening from a distance?

Is witnessing part of the one movement, too?

Is there anything which is not just happening?

Go out, come back and tell me what you found.

Loving

Can you see that it isn't that you "can" have AE without thought?.

Yes thanks for clarifying where my confusion was. I see that AE is just what is happening.

If yes, where is the boundary?

There is no boundary.

Is there an inside and an outside of Life?

No there is just oneness.

Is there something which is not included in the movement of the whole?

Everything is included

Is there a witness that is watching life happening from a distance?

No even the witnessing is just part of the whole.

Is witnessing part of the one movement, too?

Yes even witnessing is part of the one movement.

Is there anything which is not just happening?

No, everything is just happening.

That's great.

The same guide likes your answers & wants to know:

"Has anything in particular changed for her now that this confusion has now dissolved? Is there a difference now compared to before the confusion cleared?"

Loving,

"Has anything in particular changed for her now that this confusion has now dissolved? Is there a difference now compared to before the confusion cleared?"

There is a difference, the exercise really allowed me to see everything that was happening outside was not determined by my thinking and that this therefore applies to everything.

Often we are doing something and not thinking about that thing we are doing but it is happening anyway.

This has reinforced my understanding and is allowing for more acceptance to arrive, especially for times when the thoughts are saying ‘I should be doing cuz’. I now really see that this is all just thinking and whatever is happening in that moment is what is happening and no thought will change that. This gives a feeling of lightness and expansion!

* xyz

Great.

Stay tuned.

Loving,

Hi Ravina,

We are complete here. There are some groups for support & further conversations on teleconference.

We have a couple of support groups that are meeting via teleconference and I'll give you the information on that.

There are 3 meetings.

Vince Shubert runs one on the weekends. Write to vinceschubert@gmail.com for the link & schedule.

Luchana & Lubo run one on Thursdays. Write to Luchana at luchanauzunova@gmail.com

Ilona holds a monthly meeting. Write admin@ilonaciunaite.com for that link & schedule

Loving,