If there is 'awareness' of nothingness/emptiness, that is often a subtle image of nothing with very subtle sensations.Yes I do. Without sensations what is left is nothingness though. It's just empty
Yes! Emptiness is just that, empty. It can't be talked about, it just is. The only way to talk about emptiness is to put words to it, so I guess I'm just left feeling very confused.True nothingness means absolutely nothing. So if there are no sensations and there is nothingness, that's often a subtle thought that is trying to create something.
No problem. I am enjoying the conversation :)Yes! Emptiness is just that, empty. It can't be talked about, it just is. The only way to talk about emptiness is to put words to it, so I guess I'm just left feeling very confused.
Thank you for your patience with all this thinking out loud.
Does the body have senses? If you close your eyes, do you see the body without thought?The word body is a label used to describe what is seen and interacts with it's environment through its senses. The direct experience is only an energetic sensation.
No they are not two things.For example, when there is sensation, is there just sensation, or is there sensation + awareness of it? Are there two things?
No the body can't not have senses as there is no seeing it without thoughts if the eyes are closedDoes the body have senses? If you close your eyes, do you see the body without thought?
No, it's not a language problem. I can see that, it's still an identification problem, there is glimpses of letting go but something keeps drawing me back.Is this also a language problem since you mention that the direct experience is only sensation or the senses experienced?
No the body does not interact with the environment anymore than the environment interacts with the body. That thought doesn't even make sense. That would mean there is subject object and there is not. My dogs don't interact with my body anymore than I interact with theirs.If so, does the body interact with an environment? Is there environment and body - two things?
The word body points to a place where forms of direct experience feel like they arise from. Such as the feeling of fingers typing these words on the cell phone and a brain forming the thoughts being typed.What does the word body point to in direct experience?
No there is no me to be separate from life. There truly is no me in any way, shape or form, there never was which is so incredibly obvious now, it has before but it comes and goes. Something shifted though.Are 'you' separate from life?
No there is no boundary between inside and outside, it all just is as it is.Is there a boundary between inside and outside?
Exploring this was amazing! What is a body? Bones, skin, organs, eyes, cells, nervous tissue, hair? Just like there's is no tree, no house, no school. You can tease apart each of them to their atoms and quarks and still it can't be found. How much further can it all be broken down? It just dissolves. Their is no body, it's just a label.What is a body?
There is not a body and life, that would point to a subject and object relationship. There is just living.Is there a body and life -- two things?
Awareness in direct experience is just thought, when the one who is seemingly aware is looked for there is no thing to be found.What is awareness in direct experience?
There is no body or no thing aware so thinking of it as a container is just a thought. Feeling like it's a container is just identification.Is the body a container for awareness?
There is no body or clothes, these are just labels to put to what is seen and felt. When it is all broken down there is no boundary to be found and boundary dissolves.Is there a boundary between the body and clothes?
No, the body does not move independent of life it is one whole. Legs move, eyes see, heart pumps, brain thinks, air is breathed. It all just happens and flows.Does the body move independent of life or is it one whole?
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