Hey Lubo
Would love to finish the case of 'me' :-)
Not sure if anything is recognising me ... , there is no I being something, there is nothing
There is existence - just not living through the thoughts - hologram charmain is just hologram
still seeing this - although thoughts of frustration now after day at work and seeming demand on attention!
Bit more time needed to really investigate this ....
Thank you xx
Hand on the gate
Re: Hand on the gate
Hi Chairmain,
Yes, notice in silence this simple life that is going on ...
and thoughts that are "recognising" that something is not what is but I/me or belongs to I /me?
Thoughts with content - "I think" this is a thought but not that there is someone who produces thoughts.
"I feel ..." thoughts about sensations that are here...
This recognition is very subtle, like slowly spreading the wings ...more trust to beloved (what is) and falling down ...
and after awhile, flying.
Much Love
Lubo
Nice :)Would love to finish the case of 'me' :-)
WonderfulNot sure if anything is recognising me ... , there is no I being something, there is nothing
There is existence - just not living through the thoughts - hologram charmain is just hologram
still seeing this - although thoughts of frustration now after day at work and seeming demand on attention!
Yes, notice in silence this simple life that is going on ...
and thoughts that are "recognising" that something is not what is but I/me or belongs to I /me?
Thoughts with content - "I think" this is a thought but not that there is someone who produces thoughts.
"I feel ..." thoughts about sensations that are here...
This recognition is very subtle, like slowly spreading the wings ...more trust to beloved (what is) and falling down ...
and after awhile, flying.
Much Love
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
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Re: Hand on the gate
Hello Lubo
Things appear to be getting so, so busy in my life.
This morning I woke up at 3am from crazy dreams and lay in bed wide awake and noticing a bombardment of thinking .. thought after thought after thought ... not referring to 'me' and with no emotion, just lots of thoughts about this and that ... it was prolific! they are on steroids! Later on (and now) these thoughts are mixed in with ideas 'I am stuck', 'a fake' and with this emotion of 'too much going on'. There is a feeling of going over a cliff edge! I KNOW they are just thoughts .... Do I just keep observing?
Yesterday I watched Luchana's video from Thursday - she is wonderful, I really resonated with the content - please could you thank her from me. And also, I hope you are feeling better!
With much love, Charmain x
Things appear to be getting so, so busy in my life.
This morning I woke up at 3am from crazy dreams and lay in bed wide awake and noticing a bombardment of thinking .. thought after thought after thought ... not referring to 'me' and with no emotion, just lots of thoughts about this and that ... it was prolific! they are on steroids! Later on (and now) these thoughts are mixed in with ideas 'I am stuck', 'a fake' and with this emotion of 'too much going on'. There is a feeling of going over a cliff edge! I KNOW they are just thoughts .... Do I just keep observing?
Yesterday I watched Luchana's video from Thursday - she is wonderful, I really resonated with the content - please could you thank her from me. And also, I hope you are feeling better!
With much love, Charmain x
Re: Hand on the gate
Hi dear Charmain,
Thank you for shearing what is experienced.
The question is do the thoughts are really problem? Why?
- here аre thoughts which are coming like some border
and this brings illusion that this border is real and world becomes dual - outside the thoughts
and inside the thoughts where there is precious small entity
self-inner world wich includes what is thought and what is felt vs outside world wich include what is seen, heard, tasted, smelled
How is the feeling to see this construction?
Is there a real border and real outside and inside world?
dual or non-dual :) ?
Without the border - is a there a self at all?
Ask loudly What IS THIS?
and notice that:
in the seen is only the seen
in the heard is only the heard
in the thought is only the thought
in the felt is only the felt
in thе cognized is only the cognized.
Much love
Lubo
PS Luchana is very good yes. She has wonderful energy. She is happy that there is a resonance :-)
Thank you for shearing what is experienced.
Wow these thoughts are elite and very well trained :).just lots of thoughts about this and that ... it was prolific! they are on steroids!
The question is do the thoughts are really problem? Why?
Notice the tread -...Later on (and now) these thoughts are mixed in with ideas 'I am stuck', 'a fake' and with this emotion of 'too much going on'.
- here аre thoughts which are coming like some border
and this brings illusion that this border is real and world becomes dual - outside the thoughts
and inside the thoughts where there is precious small entity
self-inner world wich includes what is thought and what is felt vs outside world wich include what is seen, heard, tasted, smelled
How is the feeling to see this construction?
Is there a real border and real outside and inside world?
dual or non-dual :) ?
Without the border - is a there a self at all?
Ask loudly What IS THIS?
and notice that:
in the seen is only the seen
in the heard is only the heard
in the thought is only the thought
in the felt is only the felt
in thе cognized is only the cognized.
Much love
Lubo
PS Luchana is very good yes. She has wonderful energy. She is happy that there is a resonance :-)
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
https://luchanalubo.com/
https://luchanalubo.com/
Re: Hand on the gate
Dearest Lubo
Distraction here again! Back in the flow with determination to prioritise - so much gratitude for these questions. Today there is 'deeper realisation', no 'ME' that any thoughts are referring to or trying to make relevant 'nothing to do with (a) me', just flow, just is. Peace and relief. Ive answered the questions in capitals ....
The question is do the thoughts are really problem? Why?
NO, THERE IS NO ACTUAL PROBLEM, ONLY THOUGHTS THAT TRY TO MAKE IT SEEM SO - WITHOUT THE 'ME' THERE IS NO RELEVANCE, NO PROBLEM, NOTHING HAPPENING.
...Later on (and now) these thoughts are mixed in with ideas 'I am stuck', 'a fake' and with this emotion of 'too much going on'. - ALL FALSE - THESE ARE JUST IN THE MIX OF THE THINKING, LIKE THEY HAVE ''MORE IMPORTANCE' THAN THE OTHERS BUT THEY REALLY DON'T - THESE ARE JUST THOUGHTS THAT HAVE NOONE TO REFER TO
Notice the tread -
- here аre thoughts which are coming like some border YES LIKE A BARRIER - LIKE AN ENCLOSURE - TRYING TO DEFINE A SENSE OF SEPARATION BETWEEN OUTSIDE AND INSIDE - ME AND NOT ME - A SUBJECT AND AN OBJECT......
and this brings illusion that this border is real and world becomes dual - outside the thoughts
and inside the thoughts where there is precious small entity
self-inner world which includes what is thought and what is felt vs outside world which include what is seen, heard, tasted, smelled
BEAUTIFULLY DESCRIBED - A DUAL INNER / OUTER WORLD
How is the feeling to see this construction?
NOTICING THIS WAY IS HELPFUL - SEEING A CONSTRUCTION THAT ISNT THERE - ITS A SENSE AN ILLUSORY IDEA
Is there a real border and real outside and inside world?
dual or non-dual :) ?
NO
Without the border - is a there a self at all? NO
Ask loudly What IS THIS?
and notice that:
in the seen is only the seen
in the heard is only the heard
in the thought is only the thought
in the felt is only the felt
in thе cognized is only the cognized.
THIS IS WITH ME TODAY
SO MUCH LOVE TO YOU BOTH
X
THANK YOU.
Much love
Lubo
PS Luchana is very good yes. She has wonderful energy. She is happy that there is a resonance :-)
Distraction here again! Back in the flow with determination to prioritise - so much gratitude for these questions. Today there is 'deeper realisation', no 'ME' that any thoughts are referring to or trying to make relevant 'nothing to do with (a) me', just flow, just is. Peace and relief. Ive answered the questions in capitals ....
The question is do the thoughts are really problem? Why?
NO, THERE IS NO ACTUAL PROBLEM, ONLY THOUGHTS THAT TRY TO MAKE IT SEEM SO - WITHOUT THE 'ME' THERE IS NO RELEVANCE, NO PROBLEM, NOTHING HAPPENING.
...Later on (and now) these thoughts are mixed in with ideas 'I am stuck', 'a fake' and with this emotion of 'too much going on'. - ALL FALSE - THESE ARE JUST IN THE MIX OF THE THINKING, LIKE THEY HAVE ''MORE IMPORTANCE' THAN THE OTHERS BUT THEY REALLY DON'T - THESE ARE JUST THOUGHTS THAT HAVE NOONE TO REFER TO
Notice the tread -
- here аre thoughts which are coming like some border YES LIKE A BARRIER - LIKE AN ENCLOSURE - TRYING TO DEFINE A SENSE OF SEPARATION BETWEEN OUTSIDE AND INSIDE - ME AND NOT ME - A SUBJECT AND AN OBJECT......
and this brings illusion that this border is real and world becomes dual - outside the thoughts
and inside the thoughts where there is precious small entity
self-inner world which includes what is thought and what is felt vs outside world which include what is seen, heard, tasted, smelled
BEAUTIFULLY DESCRIBED - A DUAL INNER / OUTER WORLD
How is the feeling to see this construction?
NOTICING THIS WAY IS HELPFUL - SEEING A CONSTRUCTION THAT ISNT THERE - ITS A SENSE AN ILLUSORY IDEA
Is there a real border and real outside and inside world?
dual or non-dual :) ?
NO
Without the border - is a there a self at all? NO
Ask loudly What IS THIS?
and notice that:
in the seen is only the seen
in the heard is only the heard
in the thought is only the thought
in the felt is only the felt
in thе cognized is only the cognized.
THIS IS WITH ME TODAY
SO MUCH LOVE TO YOU BOTH
X
THANK YOU.
Much love
Lubo
PS Luchana is very good yes. She has wonderful energy. She is happy that there is a resonance :-)
Re: Hand on the gate
Hi dear Charmain,
Wonderful.
Yes. Thoughts are not referring to real Real me.
Notice that thoughts point a sensation "This is me," But this is sensation, is there someone behind it?
There is no separate entity point that there is just flow. And knowing that there is flow that is playing.
Does the flow have a story?
Much love
Lubo
Wonderful.
Yes. Go deeper here. Stay hereno 'ME' that any thoughts are referring to or trying to make relevant 'nothing to do with (a) me', just flow, just is.
Yes. Thoughts are not referring to real Real me.
Notice that thoughts point a sensation "This is me," But this is sensation, is there someone behind it?
There is no separate entity point that there is just flow. And knowing that there is flow that is playing.
Does the flow have a story?
Much love
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
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Re: Hand on the gate
Thank you Lubo
Staying here - still no 'me', sometimes thoughts 'linking' to form story, with constant vigilance to keep seeing those and the sensation - the flow doesnt have a story --it is just thought seemingly joining dots that are not there ... there is no 'my life' with a plan or things that have to be done. It is more beautiful, joyous and all effortless with no worry - the story of being here with a life to 'do' has faded ... or gone? there is a sense of invulnerability and courage. A sense of space, no seeming resistance to inhibit or control what arises - everything just is and is ok - no need to 'think' about any of these things. So much love here Lubo, even for the person at work who was 'triggering', just seen with love - no threat as before, nothing to judge - just love and joy. Staying here again today - there is a story of my daughter moving to university - theres physical work, but its just what is happening, no attachment or detachment, just joy as things be moved in the flow - all flow!
Thank you x
Staying here - still no 'me', sometimes thoughts 'linking' to form story, with constant vigilance to keep seeing those and the sensation - the flow doesnt have a story --it is just thought seemingly joining dots that are not there ... there is no 'my life' with a plan or things that have to be done. It is more beautiful, joyous and all effortless with no worry - the story of being here with a life to 'do' has faded ... or gone? there is a sense of invulnerability and courage. A sense of space, no seeming resistance to inhibit or control what arises - everything just is and is ok - no need to 'think' about any of these things. So much love here Lubo, even for the person at work who was 'triggering', just seen with love - no threat as before, nothing to judge - just love and joy. Staying here again today - there is a story of my daughter moving to university - theres physical work, but its just what is happening, no attachment or detachment, just joy as things be moved in the flow - all flow!
Thank you x
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What a joy and relief is coming reading your replay❤️
Wonderful
Now, please notice, that there is no doer, No Charmain, No none but there are verbs only, speaking with someone, making tea, thought-ing... It is easy and simple. I want you to see it, to be 100% sure how things are!
And also,notice is there responsability how life shows up?
Voice of shame and guilt judge entity or how life appears?
Much love
Lubo
Wonderful
Yes, exactly. Someone who is living live is just a story. But life is here, life Is right now🥳the story of being here with a life to 'do' has faded ... or gone?
Now, please notice, that there is no doer, No Charmain, No none but there are verbs only, speaking with someone, making tea, thought-ing... It is easy and simple. I want you to see it, to be 100% sure how things are!
And also,notice is there responsability how life shows up?
Voice of shame and guilt judge entity or how life appears?
Much love
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
https://luchanalubo.com/
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Re: Hand on the gate
Yes a huge relief and joy flowing .. even in seeming 'challenges', just smiles - its all okay
There is no sense of responsibility at what is happening - and whooosh! what a freedom - its all okay - there's no me for that to land on - no guilt or shame, even in the face of 'disagreement'- just a kind of weird courage? - its like a warmth of okayness - even joy - it just doesn't have the sense of seriousness or truth in it - how can it?
Am I 100% sure on how things are? There is a yes here .. and a desire to keep checking - so maybe not? :-) A little more time on this for certainty
Thank you so so much <3
There is no sense of responsibility at what is happening - and whooosh! what a freedom - its all okay - there's no me for that to land on - no guilt or shame, even in the face of 'disagreement'- just a kind of weird courage? - its like a warmth of okayness - even joy - it just doesn't have the sense of seriousness or truth in it - how can it?
Am I 100% sure on how things are? There is a yes here .. and a desire to keep checking - so maybe not? :-) A little more time on this for certainty
Thank you so so much <3
Re: Hand on the gate
Staying with this - it dawned ... walking across the park, foot wet, nothing to do with a me, seeing happening, none of what is seen has ANYTHING to do with a me, man walking, dog running, birds landing on the ground. a text message arrives which speeds up the walking, nothing to do with a me at all, nothing happening in the seeming outside experience has ANYTHING to do with a me ... same applies to the body, the thoughts, the actions, just all in a flow of things moving, happening - cars passing, different sounds - there are physical sensations which seem to be in response to things, but they are not, its just the sensations pointing to an idea of an entity - there is no way of being able to direct ANYTHING because there is nothing here to do that - there is no separation between what is seeming to happen 'in here' and 'out there' its all one flow - i will write again at the end of the day ... thank you <3 x
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Wonderful. Wonderful! Wonderful!
Yes, one flow.
Notice what is going on with the old patterns, with this voice of shame and guilt?
What has changed and what hasn’t in normal everyday life?
Much love
Lubo
Yes, one flow.
Notice what is going on with the old patterns, with this voice of shame and guilt?
What has changed and what hasn’t in normal everyday life?
Much love
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
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Re: Hand on the gate
Ah Lubo!
Much is arising! All in wonderful ways, and staying largely with the flow. Certain seeing, then flip flopping.
What has changed? Everything in some ways and nothing in others.
There is a surreal edge to the ordinary - especially with interactions with others, no fear at all, and just big yesses and invincibility to what arises in requests, suggestions, movement etc ... the flow is very happy
yesterday my accountant suggested a tax investigation may be happening .. once upon a time that would be so painful and scary - but noticing just the slightest ruffle - then its gone
What hasnt changed is everything too. There is still work, dog walking etc but a strong realisation that none of it is really doing anything - sometimes there is a small hit of disappointment - but then a great joy! and that there is no I doing this - although this is sometimes needed to be remembered, rather than it being a certainty all the time.
I'm still practising verb-ing - sense that this is needed to really SEE
Much love x
Much is arising! All in wonderful ways, and staying largely with the flow. Certain seeing, then flip flopping.
What has changed? Everything in some ways and nothing in others.
There is a surreal edge to the ordinary - especially with interactions with others, no fear at all, and just big yesses and invincibility to what arises in requests, suggestions, movement etc ... the flow is very happy
yesterday my accountant suggested a tax investigation may be happening .. once upon a time that would be so painful and scary - but noticing just the slightest ruffle - then its gone
What hasnt changed is everything too. There is still work, dog walking etc but a strong realisation that none of it is really doing anything - sometimes there is a small hit of disappointment - but then a great joy! and that there is no I doing this - although this is sometimes needed to be remembered, rather than it being a certainty all the time.
I'm still practising verb-ing - sense that this is needed to really SEE
Much love x
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Hi Charmain,
Look at this case, look how the flow is unfolding. Look how for everything is taken care of.
Notice that the flow is moving but do you move?
Notice right now how experiences are coming and going?
What is the glue that connect one experience with the another?
One day with another?
Are there two days?
Much love
Lubo
There are different experiences and non of them is wrong, or shamed or scary.yesterday my accountant suggested a tax investigation may be happening .. once upon a time that would be so painful and scary - but noticing just the slightest ruffle - then its gone
Look at this case, look how the flow is unfolding. Look how for everything is taken care of.
Notice that the flow is moving but do you move?
Notice right now how experiences are coming and going?
What is the glue that connect one experience with the another?
One day with another?
Are there two days?
Much love
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
https://luchanalubo.com/
https://luchanalubo.com/
Re: Hand on the gate
Hello Lubo
Im lost with this it seems. Overwhelm of thoughts to which i just surrender. Attempts to describe this seem futile as I KNOW its thoughts arising. Could feel resentment and pressure to 'do this', coming from the thoughts and a sadness.
I can totally get - thoughts are connecting the experiences, just thoughts, there is no other connection. Just a flow of things, and I how everything is taken care of. I also know that I am not applying this consistently - there is confusion to do this in the busyness of life. Its like a forgetting and returning all the time.
I have some days off soon to just be totally with this - feels like im joining in and then joining out again!
Do you think perhaps a one to one session would be possible? or am i just not focusing enough? Im really confused right now.
Thank you Lubo
Im lost with this it seems. Overwhelm of thoughts to which i just surrender. Attempts to describe this seem futile as I KNOW its thoughts arising. Could feel resentment and pressure to 'do this', coming from the thoughts and a sadness.
I can totally get - thoughts are connecting the experiences, just thoughts, there is no other connection. Just a flow of things, and I how everything is taken care of. I also know that I am not applying this consistently - there is confusion to do this in the busyness of life. Its like a forgetting and returning all the time.
I have some days off soon to just be totally with this - feels like im joining in and then joining out again!
Do you think perhaps a one to one session would be possible? or am i just not focusing enough? Im really confused right now.
Thank you Lubo
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Hi Charmain,
I am impressed by your honesty and desire for the truth.
I suggest that the whole picture is not seen yet and thats why there is a confusion.
Let's continue slowly and with curiosity to find what is here.
One on one session is the best way, from my experience.
Write me an email if you what to try one one session.
Let's look this here:
What if you are the flow pretending to be an entity/human/person?
Much love,
Lubo
I am impressed by your honesty and desire for the truth.
I suggest that the whole picture is not seen yet and thats why there is a confusion.
Let's continue slowly and with curiosity to find what is here.
One on one session is the best way, from my experience.
Write me an email if you what to try one one session.
Let's look this here:
Is there a story about separation from the flow?Just a flow of things
What if you are the flow pretending to be an entity/human/person?
Much love,
Lubo
I am happy to invite you to join our meetings and events
https://luchanalubo.com/
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