I'm not separate

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:14 am

Good morning 🌄
Q-How does it feel to see that there is no point from where the decisions come from?
That there is no one or nothing that is doing the choosing?
A- Feeling relaxed.
Q-What did the 'chooser' choose?

Did a 'self' choose something?

If you are unable to choose what you're aware of, then what else is there to choose?
A- choosing happens spontaneously.
In appearance there is false sense of choosing also happens.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:31 am

Hi,

you did a good looking.
If you are unable to choose what you're aware of, then what else is there to choose?
A- choosing happens spontaneously.
In appearance there is false sense of choosing also happens.
Nice:-)


What is NOT just a happening.

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Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:41 am

Good morning
Q- what is not just happening?
A- everything is happening.
I just want to discuss regarding apparent choices
Like for planning a trip somewhere,
Planning some property purchase
Choosing hotels for staying.
Choosing relationship etc

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm

Hi,
I just want to discuss regarding apparent choices
Discussion wount help. We are not discussing here how things maybe are.
Just look in your everyday experience of how choice is happening. The answer is not hidden.

Here are some examples to explore, be very vigilant while looking. Do not refer to ANY thought, just look at the evidence.
Like for planning a trip somewhere,
Look for the one who supposedly is planning the trip - where is its precise location?
Does e thought planning?
Does a self planning?
Or there is just planning happening?


When walking

Who or what makes a decision to move one leg or another?
Where the desicion comes from EXACTLY?


While dressing in the morning

Does someone show up and makes a choice which shirt to pick?
Can something which does the choosing be found?

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In the midst of everyday life investigate these simple activities.
Look as many times as you can and inquire:


Look for the point where these choices come from?

Is it possible to find such a point?

Can a source be found?


Dig deep.

Also you can look at this documentary (But this is only for an intellect to calm down a liitle)
If it is not seen at experience - there is no difference,
The diferrence comes when LOOKING and not thinking.


https://vimeo.com/90101368


Much love,
Luchana
If you wonder what it’s like living nonduality in everyday life?
https://awakeningawakened.com/2022/10/2 ... onduality/

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:57 pm

Good day
Q-Does e thought planning?
Does a self planning?
Or there is just planning happening?
A- planning happening.
Q-Who or what makes a decision to move one leg or another?
Where the desicion comes from EXACTLY?
A- don't know
Q-Does someone show up and makes a choice which shirt to pick?
Can something which does the choosing be found?
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A- choosing happens
Q-Look for the point where these choices come from?

Is it possible to find such a point?

Can a source be found?
A- no.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:52 am

Hi,
Q-Who or what makes a decision to move one leg or another?
Where the desicion comes from EXACTLY?
A-
don't know
Let's look a little bit more than.

Can you choose what thought will come next?

Can you choose what sensation will come next?


Can you find anywhere where 'insert name' autonomously intervenes into life, choosing something that is not the product of all the elements; that is not a part of the overall flow?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:23 am

Good day
Q-Can you choose what thought will come next?

Can you choose what sensation will come next?

A- no
Q-
Can you find anywhere where 'insert name' autonomously intervenes into life, choosing something that is not the product of all the elements; that is not a part of the overall flow?

A- everything is flow of life.
At level of understanding it's correct.
But something here-ness, something awerness create centre.its like- ok everything is that and something which is here is also that.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:47 pm

Hi and thank you for reply.
But something here-ness, something awerness create centre.its like- ok everything is that and something which is here is also that.
Is it possible to REALLY observe how awareness create centre?

And where is this cetre precisely?

What does the word awareness point in this statement exactly?

Can the awareness be experienced with one of the 5 sences?

What is awareness when you don't think about awareness?

Watch like a hawk - awareness is just another word, sometimes is a very comfortable hiding place for a sence of self. It just puts a new identity - of awareness, or concioisness, or observer, wather...

Look very thorough and tell me do you SEE awareness anywhere?


Much love,
Luchana
If you wonder what it’s like living nonduality in everyday life?
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:34 pm

Good morning.
Q-is it possible to REALLY observe how awareness create centre?

And where is this cetre precisely?

What does the word awareness point in this statement exactly?
A- awerness implies ,awer of things,seeing something means visual awerness, listening some sound means listening awerness.and usually it states that seeing happens from this body- mind.thus creating centre.
It's not possible to precisely say about location of centre,but something like "here".
Awerness means awerness of seeing, listening,sensing, tasting etc.
Q- Can the awareness be experienced with one of the 5 sences?
A- seeing is visual awerness.
Listening is auditory awerness
Tasting is taste awerness
So all sensation are some kind of awerness.
Q-What is awareness when you don't think about awareness?
A- awerness is like field in which all sensation appears

Q- watch like a hawk - awareness is just another word, sometimes is a very comfortable hiding place for a sence of self. It just puts a new identity - of awareness,or consciousness ,or observerer.
A- when it's self- awerness,self conscious ness or observerer- it's clearly "me" or say self.
Q-
Look very thorough and tell me do you SEE awareness anywhere
A- five sense - creating five different types of sensation i.e. seeing, listening,tasting, smelling,skin sensation.
These sensation are modulated awerness.otherwise no awerness.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:12 pm

Hi,
A- awerness implies ,awer of things,seeing something means visual awerness, listening some sound means listening awerness.and usually it states that seeing happens from this body- mind.thus creating centre.
It's not possible to precisely say about location of centre,but something like "here".
Awerness means awerness of seeing, listening,sensing, tasting etc.
This is not coming from looking, but from thinking.

Is awareness something prior to 5 sences?
Is there an awarenesee on one hand and things flowting IN awareness on the other hand?
Are there two things here? And how many awareness exactly are in experience?
And who or what is aware of all this?

Can you SEE awareness the way you see the screen right now?


It is very simple, do not go to thinking for the answer.


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:22 pm

Hello mam.
Q-is awareness something prior to 5 sences?
A-its complicated,knowingness is awerness,prior to 5 senses it's unrecognisable,but five senses themselves are knowing ness so they are awerness.so knowingness is always there.
Q- is there an awarenesee on one hand and things flowting IN awareness on the other hand?
A- the experience of things happen- which is all there is.
Q-Are there two things here? And how many awareness exactly are in experience?
And who or what is aware of all this?
A-there is only experience, experience is knowing ness.
Q-And who or what is aware of all this?
A- only experience ,no one experience it.
Q-Can you SEE awareness the way you see the screen right now?
A- it's seer or say subject.not an object,so can't be seen or felt.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:51 pm

Hi,
A-its complicated,knowingness is awerness,prior to 5 senses it's unrecognisable,but five senses themselves are knowing ness so they are awerness.so knowingness is always there.
It seems complicated because you are trying to think about it.
When you look it is quite obvious.

Does the knowingness separate from whatever is happening?
Is there a sensation (whatever is happening) without the noticing/knowing of it?
Is there a noticing/knowing without a senstation of (whatever is happening)
Is the noticing/knowing separate from the sensation?

Who or what make the sensation?
Who or what make the noticing?


I can't understand your last reply, so here is the question again:


Can you SEE awareness the way you SEE the screen right now?
Without a thought about awareness where is awareness?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:19 pm

Hello mam.good day
Q-
Does the knowingness separate from whatever is happening?
Is there a sensation (whatever is happening) without the noticing/knowing of it?
Is there a noticing/knowing without a senstation of (whatever is happening)
Is the noticing/knowing separate from the sensation?
A- knowing, noticing, sensation and whatever happening
are one and same.
Q-Who or what make the sensation?
Who or what make the noticing?
A- can't be known, spontaneously happening.
Q-

Can you SEE awareness the way you SEE the screen right now?
Without a thought about awareness where is awareness?
A- awerness is knowingness.it can't be seen like screen.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:08 am

Hi,

Wonderful.

So, all human experiences like seeing, tasting, hearing, body - like sensation and movements are known or they belong to a somebody?


Is there someone doing all these experiences or they are happening by themselves?


Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:48 am

Good morning 🌅
Q-,so all human experiences like seeing, tasting, hearing, body - like sensation and movements are known or they belong to a somebody?
A- all sensations are knowing,
But sometimes there is identification with strong emotions,anger,at that time again inquiry has to be done.
Q-is there someone doing all these experiences or they are happening by themselves?
A- happening themselves.


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