Waking up

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warissem
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Re: Waking up

Postby warissem » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:24 pm

Hi
One interesting thing is that there does seem to be an underlying sense of love and compassion to everything, as though it's an innate part of the knowing.
Great.

It feels like my responsibility is to let this "drive" so to speak. To get out of the way and just let things happen with love and compassion as best I can. To relax and go along for the ride.
Is it Your responsibility ? Is there still an I hiding ?

Along those lines, by acting through love and compassion, we should try to make good choices that benefit other beings and help reduce suffering. Like in helping my young son choose what to eat for breakfast, knowledge of nutrition tells us that fruit is a better choice than cookies, so we should use that knowledge to guide his choice in a loving way.
Is there a you to which a son belongs ?
Also, in terms of responsibility, the ego does creep back in, although I'd imagine that with continued, diligent practice this will lesson over time. So another responsibility is probably to not let this just become another experience stored in my memory. The seeing should be maintained and deepened over time.
There is no ego as such outside of thoughts : do you see this ?

There is no you to let this become another experience. it is not your memory.

Are you clear about no you, no separate self, no one living "your" life ?

Thank you

Warissem

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Re: Waking up

Postby Bashopoem » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:55 am

Hi.

And HA! I had a feeling that question about responsibility was a trap door. The diligent student habit still tried to eek out an answer. Thinking. Thinking. Thinking.
Is there a you to which a son belongs ?
No. He is I and I am him.
There is no ego as such outside of thoughts : do you see this ?
I do. The ego is not an entity. It's a recurring pattern of thoughts.
There is no you to let this become another experience. it is not your memory.
Thank you. Great point. I'm still yo-yoing back and forth a little bit.
Are you clear about no you, no separate self, no one living "your" life ?
I believe so, yes, but I'm also open to the idea that my current experience is not quintessential.

Thank you!

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Re: Waking up

Postby warissem » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:00 am

Hi

I will present this thread to other guides if they have any question. It will take few days.

Thank you

Warissem

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Re: Waking up

Postby Bashopoem » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:17 pm

Thanks! I very much appreciate your help. I'm open to continuing. Again, I feel like I'm seeing, but you fine folks are much more experienced with this.

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Re: Waking up

Postby warissem » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:31 pm

Hi

There is no one more experienced or not. You know if you have seen it or not. When it is seen it cannot be unseen.

Can you be not aware ?

Warissem

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Re: Waking up

Postby Bashopoem » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:01 pm

There is no one more experienced or not. You know if you have seen it or not.
The relative world still exists though. Different skill sets exist within different people, grown through unique experiences. This is just a fact.

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Re: Waking up

Postby warissem » Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:31 pm

Hi

There is a question for you from another guide :

WHO knows what is good and bad choice? Isn't 'acting through love and compassion' or 'being in the way of it' any more than concepts? Definitely helping the son happens, but who is the helper, the decider?

Thank you

Warissem

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Re: Waking up

Postby Bashopoem » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:16 am

Hi. Thanks to you and the other guide for the follow up questions.
WHO knows what is good and bad choice?

There is no "who" that knows. It is just known. On top of that, good and bad are just thoughts.
Isn't 'acting through love and compassion' or 'being in the way of it' any more than concepts?
Yes, they are concepts and thoughts.
Definitely helping the son happens, but who is the helper, the decider?
There is no decider. Decisions just happen. They arise from the nothingness, from the emptiness full of presence.

Thanks!


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