GETIT!

[Matthew]

Where exactly is "I" in seeing?

Nowhere. Seeing cannot see “I”.

Is it the "I", which is doing the seeing?

Can a thought see?

What is doing the seeing?

Is there actually anything or anyone doing the seeing? Or is there just seeing.

[Kixem]

Hi Matthew,

Is it the "I", which is doing the seeing?

No. No ”I”, no seer.

Can a thought see?

A thought cannot do anything. The only thing that can be said about thought is that it floats by, just like a cloud.

What is doing the seeing?

There’s no “what”, there’s seeing.

Is there actually anything or anyone doing the seeing? Or is there just seeing.

No. There’s only seeing, hearing, tasting, smelling, sensation, observed thought.

[Matthew]

By now it sould also become obvious what expectations truly are in actual experience.
Is an expectation more than a thought?

Is there something in actual experience right now that HAS these expectations?

[Kixem]

Is an expectation more than a thought?

No. Absolutely no.

Is there something in actual experience right now that HAS these expectations?

If I’m understanding the question correctly, no, there’s nothing in actual experience that has any expectations other than as passing thoughts.

[Matthew]

There is the thought story.. Sure.



But when looking at experience, when looking at things as they are:

Do you have a name?
Do you have a story?
Do you have an age?


What is the actual experience of "person"?
Is it more than a thought?
Are you a thought?


What is the actual experience of "human"?

[Kixem]

Do you have a name?

No. If a particular sound is generated “I” will turn “my” head. “I” doesn’t “own” a name.

Do you have a story?

As life was unfolding there was some awareness, ever so dim, around that unfolding, and some part of that, now exists as thought/memory, not with any exclusive rights to it, whatsoever. No, I doesn’t “have” a story.

Do you have an age?

No, there’s no ownership of age involved. No, obviously “I” doesn’t have an age. “I” is now what “I” always is. Some papers around here indicate a certain age next to the aforementioned name.

[Matthew]

How does it feel to see this?

[Kixem]

What is the actual experience of "person"?
Is it more than a thought?
Are you a thought?


What is the actual experience of "human"?

I need some assistance. Can you, possibly, rephrase the question?
I can go back and reread what’s been previously said on the matter and answer accordingly. But that would be talking the talk and not walking the walk..

[Matthew]

Sure!

Very simple:

If the entirety of actual experience can be described with the terms
Seeing, Hearing, Tasting, Smelling, Sensation and observed Thought

What is "self", "I", "me", "mine", "not I", "not me", "not mine" in actual experience?

As it became clear:
"I" cannot be seen, it cannot be heard, it cannot be sensed.
It exists only as a thought and does not exist outside of thought content, a thought story.



What then is the actual experience of -for example- person or personality?

Does it exist apart form a thought about it?

Does the pure seen say anything about these apparent things?
Does pure sensation tell anything about these apparent things?

Does "self", "personality" and the like exist AT ALL in genuine reality?




As it was seen:
"I" does not have a name.
"I" does not have a story.
"I" does not have an age.

Can "I" be anything or can "I" become anything else than "I"?

Does "I" have a personality?
Is "I" a person?
Does "I" have anything to do with "human"?

[Kixem]

How does it feel to see this?

I don’t feel anything different as a result of knowing this.

[Kixem]

What is the actual experience of "person"?
Is it more than a thought?
Are you a thought?


What is the actual experience of "human"?

It’s this I feel some unclarity about.
I read your answer to my request for a restatement and I’m still not clear.. I feel resistance. Like I don’t want to look? I am afraid to see?
I can’t see?
What’s all this about?
What’s the actual experience of person or personality? Do you mean, how does a-any-person

[Kixem]

Sorry,touched the wrong spot on the screen and my draft was submitted..
Do you mean, how does a, any, person experience him/herself?
I don’t know.
Or me.
I don’t know.

[Matthew]

It's just like this:

Does a personality exist?
"I am kind, I am strong"
Can "I" be kind?
Can "I" be strong?

Or is personality just a thought. And therefore doesn't exist.

Is there such a thing as a personality?
Do you have a personality?

[Kixem]

It's just like this:

Does a personality exist?
"I am kind, I am strong"
Can "I" be kind?
Can "I" be strong?

Or is personality just a thought. And therefore doesn't exist.

Is there such a thing as a personality?
Do you have a personality?

Well, if you put it that way..
I can’t stop laughing.. it’s the most ridiculous thing I heard in the last 7 seconds..
CERTIFIABLY a figment of a fertile imagination.., a delusion.
In other words, NO, I do not have a personality. I hope I am clear..
(It’s so interesting..since my last post, I’ve been thinking that my “resistance”, my “unclarity”, “doubts” etc. are all just thoughts.)

[Matthew]

Beautiful :-)

It’s so interesting..since my last post, I’ve been thinking that my “resistance”, my “unclarity”, “doubts” etc. are all just thoughts.

Yes. Resistance, Unclarity, doubts and the like are all thoughts.
What else could they be?

Now look at that what apparently HAS these things.

Drop all insight that we had so far and have a fresh look at what is HERE NOW:


What is it, that HAS doubts?
How is it experienced?
What does apparently HAVE doubts. Maybe "I" or "[name]"?
Is that more than a thought? Can a thought have doubts?

Unclarity.
What is in clarity or unclarity?
Can a thought be unclear or clear about something?


Does this resistance belong to anything or anyone?
To "me" perhaps?
Can resistance belong to a thought?

If not, who or what does it truly belong to?
Does it belong to a one? Or does it belong to no one?
Does it belong to a thing? Or does it belong to no thing?