The Gate

Hi Wesley (and anonymous guide :))

OK, looks like those end notes might have been a bit out of place (for some).

No "strings attached", the world wouldn't impact me, I wouldn't impact the world, I would just perceive it.

There is one question from another guide: Who is perceiving? Is there a "me" that the world will impact?

No one, perceiving just "is", essentially it comes hand-in-hand with "being". No, there isn't a me that the world would impact, "me" is just a thought. In fact, "impact" itself is a thought too, in reality there is no "impacting" anything. There is just life happening. Thoughts may interpret some things "impacting" others.
Apologies, in my answer to question 6 I was describing thoughts - thoughts labelled as thoughts from the past - that's why the phrasing was a bit lousy.

(Ha! But this way there was an opportunity to use nested quoting! :))

Let me know if there are further questions.

Thanks
Balazs

Hi Balazs,

No one, perceiving just "is", essentially it comes hand-in-hand with "being". No, there isn't a me that the world would impact, "me" is just a thought. In fact, "impact" itself is a thought too, in reality there is no "impacting" anything. There is just life happening. Thoughts may interpret some things "impacting" others.
Apologies, in my answer to question 6 I was describing thoughts - thoughts labelled as thoughts from the past - that's why the phrasing was a bit lousy.

I enjoy how you describe this ;). Thank you for your answers. That was all of the questions!

So Balazs, unless you have any further questions or anything else you'd like to talk about, the thread is going to be closed (though you will still be able to read it) and you will receive a message from an admin about getting invited to the LU aftercare groups on Facebook. These groups give you access to a great community, as well as many resources should you want to continue the inquiry. You can discover other groups that inquire into other aspects of experience, or some that work with emotions. You can also become a guide (I highly recommend this), and think you would be a great guide :).

That being said, for most people seeing through the illusion of a separate self isn't the end. You may notice a drastic decrease in seeking, life may seem sweet and I encourage you to enjoy this. Or difficult and trying emotions may reveal themselves. Either way, trust that whatever is showing up is not proof that you're doing anything wrong. In fact, you may notice a certain "layer" of suffering gone, but there can tend to be a new layer that then presents itself to be looked at. Or not. If suffering in one shape or form arises again you have a community to share your experience and get support, there are groups that look into that, or you can simply accept it as a part of life and go on all the same. An example of this I like to give is that just because the illusion of a self is seen through doesn't necessarily mean that life will be accepted as it is, and as it comes.

This is just my 2 cents to give you and please take what's useful and reject what is not. Ultimately, follow your intuition. Go with the flow. No two people's experiences are exactly the same. Be kind to "yourself". Whatever arises to be looked at next will do so on its own as things unravel, and if nothing does and you are content then wonderful!

If you do have anything else to talk with me about, you can find me in the facebook groups, or you can also find mentors and "deepen" the realization.

Balazs, it's been a pleasure to guide you. Feel free to stay and touch, and I'm wishing you the very best :)

-Wesley

Hi Wesley,

Many thanks for your reply and for all your work in this. I'm OK to have the thread closed.
It was my pleasure to have your guidance :) Our discussions did make it deeper.
I'd be looking forward to joining the Aftercare group, but the thing is, I'm not on Facebook... I don't have anything against it, but never cared to take the time to create a profile there. (I am on LinkedIn but that won't help much here...) I might make an effort and join Facebook just for that, we'll see.
I might guide, let me take that away. I generally enjoy "mentoring", but it takes time (and hence my appreciation for yours that went into this), my greatest concern is about not being able to reply every day as a guide - I could better get away with that as a "client", but might have more pressure as a guide.
Anyway, we'll see, I do intend to give back (/forward) to the world and this might be the way. How do I "sign up" for guiding?

Thanks
Balazs

Hi Balazs,

I completely understand your reluctance to join Facebook. I do think there are plenty of LU people who share that reluctance. Maybe you can create a profile simply for the purpose of joining the groups? No need to get on the facebook wagon if you have no desire/need for it ;).

The option to guide will always be there. There always seems to be need for guides as more and more people are coming to LU. Perhaps it isn't the right time to guide if you're not sure you have time.

Whatever best fits you! I will share a secret and tell you that I initially wanted to guide to give back, and now I do it selfishly because I love doing it and it teaches me a lot.

To sign up for guiding you get invited to the LU aftercare group and then simply make a post that you would like to become a guide and someone will message you with the steps to do so and you'll be invited to a couple other Facebook groups that are for guides.

All the best to you, feel free to PM me anytime and stay in touch if you'd like.

Wesley