The Gate

The idea is that a guide- me in this case -provides questions, pointers, designed to make you look at your direct, concrete experience as it is right now. This is what you referred to as truth earlier today.

This was what was considered when answering questions.

I'm asking you to describe your experience. In everyday, conventional, human, conditioned terms and concepts. Are you familiar with that frame of reference?

Do you understand what I'm asking you to do?

yes

my answers are coming from concrete experience as it is right now.are they not reaching your expectation?

Can you describe, in a bit more detail, the actual experience of a physical body

no

What is it that is experiencing a physical body? How is this known?

there is nothing there

How does the body relate to thoughts exactly?

that is not my experience

What is it that is seeing the story of you, the memories?

nothing

my answers are coming from concrete experience as it is right now.are they not reaching your expectation?

Seems to me there are two possibilities here, considering the type of replies I've gotten from you:

1. You've already seen what it is we are pointing at here, in which case this conversation is wholly superfluous;
2. You're not being entirely honest as to what is being experienced or you are having trouble getting it across in a conventionally meaningful manner.

Or perhaps I'm missing something here entirely and something else is going on, could you advice me as to where to take this further?

Some of the early answers were not based on experience. I recognize that after asking a friend where she thought, thoughts came from. She said science had taught her that thoughts came from the brain. This forced me to look further and upon looking there was a realization that although I had learned the same lesson about the brain, that was not my direct experience. My direct experience is there is nothing I explain, about where thoughts come from. This was examed for over an entire day but that realization came almost immediately after my friend expressed her idea about thoughts.

Does that help?

The answers from an earlier posts are from absolute honest direct experience.

Does that help?

It's a step in the right direction :-)

Most people, when asked to describe how their physical bodies are experienced, will come up with at least some kind of description of their experience. When you answer, repeatedly, "nothing", that is quite interesting, from a conventional perspective.

That is precisely why I am asking you to explain what you mean by this nothing. So, care to try again?

from a conventional perspective.

not sure what that means? do you mean the way it is normally explained?

I really want to try and explain what i mean by nothing. My experience is one of awareness, total awareness. Does that make more sense?

not sure what that means? do you mean the way it is normally explained?

No, the way you actually experience it. In such a way that the words you use are (at least minimally) meaningful in a conventional sense.

I really want to try and explain what i mean by nothing. My experience is one of awareness, total awareness. Does that make more sense?

No, it doesn't. Not like this. Not if you keep posting short, cryptic sentences. Please explain more.

Damon, there is not much to say.

by direct experience, there is awareness, moment to moment, its hard to explain what is already happening.

there is gratitude, there is love, gentleness, acceptance, a desire to be cool with the world around me, no need to defend anything about myself

my body is insignificant, unimportant

who I am is insignificant, unimportant

there is nothing for to explain

i don't even wish i had more to tell you, which seems like the thing to say

Then I very much doubt there is much use for this conversation to continue. You may request another guide should you want to. Let me know if that's what you want, and I will ask some oof the other guides here to continue this.

Wishing you all the best.

is that the process? not sure what I should say?

have you done this before? is this how it ends?

I have been doing this for five years now, this is the first time I've had to stop a process before it even really properly began. I'm afraid I will not be able to continue this.

Do you want me to request another guide for you?