Humble request to help me realize the truth

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Re: Humble request to help me realize the truth

Postby OM-ar » Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:32 am

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No, there is no separate 'self' and there never was one.
2) How does it feel to see this?

Physically, there is a slight tingling and buoyant energy around the heart. There is also a sense of contentment with the realization that labels of 'self' are only thoughts about a fictitious character.
What is the difference between 'now' and from before you started this dialogue? Perhaps give a report from the past few days (weeks?)
Reality hasn't changed but experience is marked by the lack of engagement with thoughts of a separate 'self' (i.e. no blaming or praising thoughts of 'self', when they appear). There is also a decrease in anxiety and fear related to the illusion of a separate 'self'. And actually, it feels quite silly to entertain ideas of a separate 'self'.

Before this dialogue, the belief of no separate self was a combination of thoughts supported by scientific findings and religious dogma, it was not experience. Over the course of this dialogue, opportunities were presented to find an inherently existing 'self,' in the direct experience. Initially, the 'self' was thought to be a combination of the mind and body, in the present moment. However, when examining direct experience moment to moment, over the past weeks, no separate self was found.
3) Was there a last bit that pushed you over? Made you look and realise? Perhaps something that was mentioned, or something that you looked into yourself?
Examining the expectation of a 'self' realizing that there is no self is what led to awareness that lacks a separate self.

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Re: Humble request to help me realize the truth

Postby Xain » Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:52 am

Great.
Here are the last three of the six.

4) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Please give examples from experience if possible.

6) Do you have anything else you would like to say or add?

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Re: Humble request to help me realize the truth

Postby OM-ar » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:54 am

4) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
The illusion of a separate self is the false belief that 'I' (mind and body) am an inherent entity that exists detached from the direct experience of reality. When it started is not exactly known, but it probably happened at an early stage in life, when 'my' mind began to comprehend and correlate direct experience with language used (pointers) by 'others' to identify 'me' as an individual entity. The conditioning was habitually reinforced by 'my' deluded mind that incorrectly assumed that experiences happened to 'me' or because of 'me'. Now, a separate self is 'seen' to be an illusion, comprised of impermanent thoughts and objects that point to nothing inherent.
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Please give examples from experience if possible.
Decision, intention, free will, choice, and control are all illusionary concepts that are associated with the false belief in a separate self. They are nothing but thoughts Things happen of their own accord and there is no separate self to be held responsible for what just is.
6) Do you have anything else you would like to say or add?
Many thanks for the dialog! Metta

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Re: Humble request to help me realize the truth

Postby Xain » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:45 pm

A few further question for you.

"Does any iota of Omar remain identified with?"

Also . . .

"When you mention 'mind' what are you referring to exactly?
Is there an owner of a mind? (You?)
What can the mind actually 'do' (if anything)?"

Also . . .

If possible, can you give an example from experience to question No. 5?

Thanks and best wishes
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Re: Humble request to help me realize the truth

Postby OM-ar » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:27 pm

"Does any iota of Omar remain identified with?"
No, 'Omar' is just a label for ever-changing thoughts.
"When you mention 'mind' what are you referring to exactly?
Thoughts actually
Is there an owner of a mind? (You?)
No, there is no owner because the mind is only a thought of something that contains thoughts
What can the mind actually 'do' (if anything)?"
The mind cannot do anything because it is just a label for awareness of thoughts.
If possible, can you give an example from experience to question No. 5?
Decision, intention, free will, choice, and control are all thought concepts that only work in a dualistic framework. Things just happen and it is only when there is a thought of a separate self do these concepts arise and 'self' claims responsibility. Essentially, they are thoughts about thoughts, after or before the direct experience and cannot do or create anything.

A thought of intending to go home soon has arisen but there is still typing and the thought fades. The experience of getting up to leave the office might occur but the intending to go home thought cannot claim responsibility for making that happen.

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Re: Humble request to help me realize the truth

Postby Xain » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:12 am

Great - Thank you for your replies, Omar.

The other guides are happy that you have realised and so am I.
This guiding is at an end, and thank you for sticking with the process.

If you are on Facebook, I can get you added to our forums for 'New Arrivals', 'Further Looking' and 'Aftercare' if you wish, where you can chat with others through the gate or seek further guidance on areas we have not touched.
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All the best to you
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