Please could I have a Guide

[JonathanR]

Hi Karunamegha,

When I answered re the chair, I really wanted to say it did not exist, but thought of the questions re pomegranate which you said had a physical reality,

For the purposes of that investigation it was important to differentiate between the idea of a fruit and what can be experienced here and now.

So you are saying that things only exist when they are experienced? Which I can understand in a way as there is only present, no past or future.

Right! Isn't that the experience? 'Past' and 'Future'....where are they? Where do they 'exist'? If there is only Now?

About chairs, pomegranates, past and future. If these are not present to the five senses 'where' must they 'exist'?

Or, better, what creates the idea of them?



Love,

Jonathan

[Karunamegha]

Hi Jonathan

Things labelled Chairs, etc can be perceived, but they are only seen in the present moment. The idea of them is created by thought.

Love

Karunamegha

[JonathanR]

Hi Karunamegha,

You are doing really well. Do you have any doubts about anything we have so far discussed? If so, now is the time to let me know.

Do you feell that you have fully 'seen' through the illusion of 'self' ?

Let me know.

If so there are six questions I would like you to answer, after which I will invite the other guides to take a look.


Love,

Jonathan

[Karunamegha]

Hi Jonathan

Thank you for being such a patient guide.

'I' do feel 'I' have seen through the illusion of self. What a wonderful 'gift' you have helped manifest.

I await the six questions, but do understand if you are busy over Christmas.

Love

Karunamegha

[JonathanR]

Dear Karunamegha,

No patience was required. It has been a pleasure.

Here are the first threee of the six questions. Have a go at answering these.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you seeit now .

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.



Love,

Jon.

[Karunamegha]

Hi Jonathan

Here are the answers.

1)
No there is not a separate entity 'self'' at all in any way and there never has been.

2)
The illusion of a separate self happens when thoughts come together and tell a story about 'I' as a set of unique personal characteristics. This story can continue throughout life causing the 'I' to respond to things that happen in a similar way, using thoughs of the past as a benchmark. Thoughts are there and the'I' thinks they form a past, present and a future. 'I' became aware of these thoughts at the age of about three and held on to some of them as memories. These events may have happened but they they were not 'my' separate events or thoughts.

3)
There is now a freedom from and unencumberedness by events and feelings of the past. Events will have happened, but the story thinking and thoughts have told about them was just a story and could have been told in a number of different ways. Events just happened but not specifically to a separate 'me'. The present moment is what's happening, it's so fresh. It does not need to be influenced by the past or what is termed as future. Life flows in a freer way, not in a separate, narrow way, not to a separate 'me''. Things happen, they are not 'my' things.

Love
Karunamegha

[JonathanR]

Thanks for those answers.

Just need to ask...

Events just happened but not specifically to a separate 'me'. The present moment is what's happening, it's so fresh. It does not need to be influenced by the past or what is termed as future.

In this moment can 'past' be found that has reality beyond the thought about a 'past' that 'happened'? Is 'past happened' a reality or a thought?

Here are the second three questions...


4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience

.6) Anything to add?

Jon

[Karunamegha]

Dear Jon

Hope to answer the questions tomorrow, have friends staying at the moment.

Love
Karunamegha

[JonathanR]

Hi Karunamegha,

Thanks for letting me know. Busy time of year!

Love,

Jon

[Karunamegha]

Hi Jonathan

No past cannot be found in this present moment. Past happened is a thought.

4) I feel that I have been trying to look all the time; especially since you asked at the beginning what my experiences of 'emptiness' were and I then did the Six Element practice in a deeper way than ever before. (Now I am talking of thoughts of the past!). Really seeing the other day that things only exist when they are experienced in the present moment and there is only present, no past was the final bit.

5). Observing getting out of bed in the morning just happened without any decision to do so. Making breakfast for 'myself' and guests again just happened without any particular intention. There was the freedom to do anything and things just flowed - getting a bus into town, going to a shop, walking along the seafront, everything just flowed, there was no 'choice' or 'control', it all flowed. Being responsible would be a thought, there is no need for this, everything happens and flows.

6) Nothing to add, just great appreciation and thanks to you. Are you ex-Yashopala, Jonathan Rice, Cecil Rice? I just accepted the first person who offered to be a guide and a few hours later wondered whether you had these names, and was pleased at the idea that it might be so. Did you know 'me' perhaps by the name of Michelle?

Much love
Karunamegha

[JonathanR]

Hi Karunamegha

And thanks for your clear answers.

I'll now invite the other guides to look at our conversation and you final answers. They may come back with further questions. This may take a while but I'll get back to you I promise.

Yes. You got me! For my part I had thought your name sounded familiar but had not made tbe connection until the penny dropped about a week ago. How nice!. It has been a pleasure.


Love,

Jon.

[JonathanR]

Hi Karunamegha,

One of the guides has a question in relation to your answer to Qu 2

This story can continue throughout life causing the 'I' to respond to things that happen in a similar way, using thoughs of the past as a benchmark. Thoughts are there and the'I' thinks they form a past, present and a future.

What responds to things in a similar way? What thinks they form a past, present and future?

Is there an 'I' that can 'think'?


Jon.

[JonathanR]

Hi Karunamegha,

Wonder if you have had time to consider the questions?

Best wishes


Jon.

[Karunamegha]

Hi Jonathan

Saw the e-mail saying you had posted yesterday afternoon, I had been looking out for posts for several days and a few days ago checked on the site to see if my post was there, but somehow I must have missed your replies. Thought maybe the guides were away over Christmas. Sorry for the delay.

In answer to what responds to things in a similar way?

Thinking can do this. Thinking can think it's of the past, present or future, but it just happens and flows.

There is no separate 'I' that can think.

Best wishes

Karunamegha

[JonathanR]

Dear Karunamegha,

I'm delighted to let you know that the guides all agree that you're through the gateless gate! Congratulations! )Of course you don't need others to tell you what you have seen...).

I am sending you an important Private Message, so please check your new messages.

Love

Jon.