Looking for an Order Member from Triratna to guide

[Jack'n'theBox]

A request for clarification from another guide:

You preface answers 1 and 2 with the phrase "in direct experience". I'm wondering, is there a self NOT in direct experience? Is the illusion different in DE than in everyday perception?

[Ragnor]

There is not a self anywhere in any experience - I appreciate the term direct experience can seem like a concept it's not - I use the phase to indication that words do not describe some kind of self analysing experience but rather words describe simply experience - no separation no boundaries no labels - experience

[Ragnor]

Also there is no distinction between an experiencer and experience it just is...

[Jack'n'theBox]

OK thanks -- please check your PMs for access to post-gate groups. This may take a day or two.

[Ragnor]

Thank you for guiding me

[Jack'n'theBox]

No worries. It just happens. xx