Asking for guidence

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Re: Asking for guidence

Postby Alexw » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:57 am

Yes. How does it feel to see this?
Is there anything but THIS - what you are aware of right now?

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Re: Asking for guidence

Postby Same » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:21 am

Yes. How does it feel to see this?
How does it feel? It feels free, like a trust in that everything goes on, everything works perfectly fine, without the interference of the illusionary "I". Relax.. no need to do anything to make things happen. It´s not about "me" anyway.
Is there anything but THIS - what you are aware of right now?
No, really, I can´t say that there is anything else than THIS, right now. Even memories of so called "past" is appearing now, and thoughts about so called "future" is appearing now.

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Re: Asking for guidence

Postby Alexw » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:41 am

Hi Sam,

We have a certain routine here at LU. When someone has gone through the process we ask some final questions - I would kindly ask you to have a go at them.
Once this is done I will invite you to join us in Facebook - there are a lot of great people that you can share experiences with or ask questions as they come up.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Give examples from your experience.

6) Anything to add?

Love,
Alex

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Re: Asking for guidence

Postby Same » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:32 am

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No. There is no entity "I". There is only this experience. No owner of it. The thought of "I" is only that, a thought.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
When there is the belief of an entity "I" in some way. That makes the sense of "I" as separate from others, or objects. This seems to be a evolutionary function somehow, as everyone seems to have this belief before looking through it. This function must be some kind of protection mechanism for the physical being or something like that, but this is only speculating. How does it work in my experience? This belief clearly has effects on my behaviour. For example, this belief tells me what things to be afraid of, and what things to not be afraid of. Sometimes it´s useful, sometimes it´s just ideas of no use really. When does it start? I don´t know. I don´t think I have memories from before the sense of "me" as a separate self. I only know what science says. Around two years age the sense of "me" as a separate being appears.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
As I wrote yesterday. It feels free, more effortless, when there is no need for the "I" to interfere all the time. There is a trust in that everything works fine anyway. Trust in that there are actions happening when they need to happen. The difference from before this dialogue is that I don´t take things as much "personal" now. For example if I receve criticism for my work. I take this less personal, of course these things can still trigger feelings coming up. But there is no owner of these feelings.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
All of the things we looked at was useful. The shift I would say was when we looked at expectations of something to be different, or something to happen. Nothing is different. This makes sense, as what pushed me over was to see that there is nothing to be pushed over, and no one to be pushed over it. There is no gate! haha! this is funny.
5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen?
No. The sense of "me" thinks it has control, doing desicions, choosing, intend. There is no "me". No one to decide or intend. decisions happening. Choosing happening. Example: What brought me HERE? where I am right now. How did I get here? I have no idea. It just happened.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No. There is no entity "I". There is only this experience. No owner of it. The thought of "I" is only that, a thought.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
When there is the belief of an entity "I" in some way. That makes the sense of "I" as separate from others, or objects. This seems to be a evolutionary function somehow, as everyone seems to have this belief before looking through it. This function must be some kind of protection mechanism for the physical being or something like that, but this is only speculating. How does it work in my experience? This belief clearly has effects on my behaviour. For example, this belief tells me what things to be afraid of, and what things to not be afraid of. Sometimes it´s useful, sometimes it´s just ideas of no use really. When does it start? I don´t know. I don´t think I have memories from before the sense of "me" as a separate self. I only know what science says. Around two years age the sense of "me" as a separate being appears.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
As I wrote yesterday. It feels free, more effortless, when there is no need for the "I" to interfere all the time. There is a trust in that everything works fine anyway. Trust in that there are actions happening when they need to happen. The difference from before this dialogue is that I don´t take things as much "personal" now. For example if I receve criticism for my work. I take this less personal, of course these things can still trigger feelings coming up. But there is no owner of these feelings.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
All of the things we looked at was useful. The shift I would say was when we looked at expectations of something to be different, or something to happen. Nothing is different. This makes sense, as what pushed me over was to see that there is nothing to be pushed over, and no one to be pushed over it. There is no gate! haha! this is funny.
5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen?
No. The is no one to decide, choose, intend. Choosing happening, deciding happening. Example: What brought me HERE? where I am right now. How did I get here? I have no idea. It just happened.

6) Anything to add?

Thank you for helping. For guiding. What a great service you provide here.

Love
Sam

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Re: Asking for guidence

Postby Same » Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:42 pm

Oops. I pasted it twice in the message

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Re: Asking for guidence

Postby Alexw » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:25 pm

It has been my pleasure!

Do you have a Facebook name? Please let me know so I can invite you to the LU groups.

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Re: Asking for guidence

Postby Same » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:53 am

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