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Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:51 pm
by Maryann
The body doesn't feel comfortable at all. But that's just the usual discomfort and nothing to do with seeing that there is no controller.
There is no effort to move the hand. There is noticing and being aware of when the hand is either turned up or down. I'm not able to locate any change in the body feelings when I see that there is the hand turning without me turning it.
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 10:45 pm
by Anastacia42
We usually group "comfortable " with labels. I take it you feel "relaxed."
So, this next pointer you may do for a while.
This is the only pointer Ilona gave me when I was guided here. i practiced this for about 3 months. I call it:
ButtChair
Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.
Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
It is simple direct & nonverbal. Just LOOK.
Then write what is true.
Loving,
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 10:52 pm
by Maryann
Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.
Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
I read this pointer a while ago and I've practiced it. I can tell that there is only a sensation that can't be divided. It is a feeling of pressure.
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2026 11:40 pm
by Anastacia42
Good.
Don't expect for seeing to happen during the exercise. It might but what it does is sets up the condition where you see that you are one with everything and there is no "you" separate from everything else.
Loving
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 4:22 pm
by Maryann
Hi Stacy, I'm keen to use another pointer. The me self is still being believed to be true.
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 6:58 pm
by Anastacia42
Why do you need another one?
I did only that one for 3 months.
It's rare that another pointer is needed.
https://youtu.be/wyNwhK2Ur1c?si=TZwuFEst-7Hsadpu
https://liberationunleashed.com./resour ... r-seeker/
There is no magic pointer. Only LOOK.
Loving,
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:02 pm
by Maryann
I did only that one for 3 months.
I see that there is just the one experience butt/chair. How will keep noticing that have any effect on the belief that the me self is real?
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:21 pm
by Maryann
I did only that one for 3 months
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Is it so that attention going into thinking can notice what is direct and actual experience? And it could be any immediate obvious sensation. Some people can notice air going in and out of their nostrils. I can't.
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:47 pm
by Anastacia42
How will keep noticing that have any effect on the belief that the me self is real?
You're looking for cause & effect & explanations. We can make things up, but what has been shown through the pointers is that thoughts are made up stories.
Let it be a mystery. That will help more.
Is it so that attention going into thinking can notice what is direct and actual experience?
That is part of it.
Did you watch the video & read the article?
Loving,
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 12:40 am
by Maryann
Did you watch the video & read the article?
Yes thank you Stacy.
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 6:43 am
by Anastacia42
You're welcome.
You've got this.
Loving
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:24 pm
by Maryann
Yesterday there was a glimmer. Not a glimpse, just the suggestion of one. But immediately thought jumped in and said that's it. And it was covered up straight away.
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:31 pm
by Anastacia42
Excellent!
When that happens just sit quietly with it and relax.
Loving,
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:39 pm
by Maryann
Thank you Stacy. And thank you very much for your message reply.
Re: Is it possible?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 4:03 pm
by Anastacia42
My pleasure!