Help with the first fetter, plz

[Chrisd]

Hi Stacy, quite a chaotic few days so lots of material to work with lol. I tried the next pointer; release and receive it think it's called. First time it felt quite powerfull and there was a much looser sense of self. Second time I fell asleep 😴. Not sure when a falling g of the first fetter will happen, I really have no control over it, will keep posting, could be some time though.

Thanks again, Chris

[Anastacia42]

That all sounds very good.

I've been watching Angelo Dillulo videos. He meets the LU "seal of approval" as does Pernille. Feel free to take a look.

Continue with the DropBox recordings. The point is to learn them - they're all pretty simple- and practice whichever ones you like best.

You've got a great attitude. You can do this!!

Relax, let go & LOOK.

Loving,

[Chrisd]

Hi Stacy, not had a chance to do another recording but the god as everything one has been usefull, providing enough of a gap to redu e reactivity whilst at work at the psychiatric hospital.

Had some interesting experiences waking up in the middle of night. Several times Felt like I was being swallowed up by a black shadow, not sure what would happen if I didn't fight it, annihilation?

By the way, I attended Angelo dilullos silent retreat in September, that was pretty sweet.

Thanks again, Chris

[Anastacia42]

Okay.

Had some interesting experiences waking up in the middle of night. Several times Felt like I was being swallowed up by a black shadow, not sure what would happen if I didn't fight it, annihilation?

I doubt it. What is the Direct Experience? ?

Loving,

[Chrisd]

Hi Stacy, sorry, have not been able to post regularly, I'm planning to t0nigyt. Thanks

[Anastacia42]

Thanks for letting me know.

[Chrisd]

Having quite a few expansive moments walking in the local woods, using the pointer, 'where am I and who is aware of that I'.

What is the Direct Experience?

My internal chatter quietens and the visual field starts to flatten out. It is quite clear that once the mind quiets that there is no, 'me'.

I'm going through quite a stressful period lots of heavy stuff -and trying not to laugh, without thoughts the tension and emotions pass through quickly almost fun

[Anastacia42]

Fun, isn't it?

Can you say 100% there's no separate "self?"

Loving,

[Chrisd]

Can you say 100% there's no separate "self?"

Not yet sorry. Only when I remember there's no separate self. Thanks, Chris

[Anastacia42]

That's okay.

I just read this today from another guide. See if it helps.

https://vinceschubert.substack.com/p/wh ... ven-when-i

Loving,

[Chrisd]

Hi Stacy, Great excercises, and I read that there's a rhythm to this awake state, ripening very slowly before dropping off the tree so to speak. Will report back tomorrow

Thanks again, Chris

[Anastacia42]

Good!

[Chrisd]

Hiya Stacy, another hectic week. Still chasing the first fetter but reactivity has dropped massively. Sense of self and identification with the body seems to be the sticking point. There's a definite sense of I when doing Inquiry.

Chris

[Anastacia42]

It won't help to defend the non-existent "self."

Explore ‘Sense of Self’

Let’s say that you have lost your keys and you swear that you left them in your coat. You go to look and check all the pockets - the keys are not there. You swear they must be as that was the last place you remember them. You have a vivid memory of putting them there after you left the house. But when you check they are not there. At this point you can keep believing that the keys are in your pocket, or you can admit you were mistaken.

This is just like that. You may see clearly that the self is an illusion but still feel a sense of self - just like the keys. But feeling something to be true and seeing that it is or is not is different. This is why we may find ourselves coming back to your expectations at the start and at the end.

Now, I’d like to ask you to explore this SENSE of self very-very thoroughly. Not by thinking about it, but by FEELING it. Keep the focus of attention on the sense of self and inquire:

Does the sense of self have a location?

Does the sense of self have a shape or a size?

Does the sense of self say or communicate anything?

If the answer is yes, how does the sense do this exactly?

Does the sense of self have any characteristics or attributes?

What is the sense of self ‘made of’? An image? Sound? Taste? Smell? Sensation? Thought?

What is found?

Loving,

[Anastacia42]

Hi Chris,

Here is something to watch, particularly at about 57 minutes.

https://youtu.be/517Rggo0qtE?si=xFmpfKqLTFsGs2pB

Loving,