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Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2026 3:59 pm
by Wanderer618
I’m in it for real. Not going anywhere! lol. I’ll keep looking.


🫶
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Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2026 4:04 pm
by Anastacia42
Very good! Drives me nuts worn people give up.
One theory is that you're already seeing and it crept up gradually so you didn't recognize it.
Then you ended up with a lot of doubt. You've probably already watched Pernille's videos on doubt.
Loving
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2026 4:07 pm
by Wanderer618
Ahh I see. Yes maybe that has happened, not sure.
I watched some of her videos on doubt before. Will watch again. Is there a particular video on doubt that would be good for me to watch?
Thank you!
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Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2026 4:37 pm
by Anastacia42
I think there are 3 of them. Your choice or all of them.
Loving
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2026 4:41 pm
by Wanderer618
Ok I’ll look for them! Thanks!
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Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2026 6:44 pm
by Anastacia42
Do you still want to be guided here?
How is it going?
Loving
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2026 6:49 pm
by Wanderer618
Hi,
Yes, I still want to be guided here.
I'm leaving my husband and looking to move to another Hawaiian island. I have attended Vince's groups here and there still. Major life shifts are happening.
Any guidance is welcome.
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2026 6:51 pm
by Anastacia42
Oh my. That's a lot.
I imagine you're still doing ButtChair &maybe the DropBox pointers?
Vince's group is still great.
Do you have any questions?
No hurry.
Loving,
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2026 7:06 pm
by Wanderer618
I have not been doing Butt Chair or the dropbox practices. I got entirely distracted. I will begin to integrate these into my days now.
Awakening is the most important "thing" to me in my life. Truth is my compass. I don't yet know what anything looks like but the pathless path is perhaps made by walking it. I'm in this 1000%
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2026 7:18 pm
by Anastacia42
I LOVE your attitude & I agree with you.
You can ask me anything.
Much love,
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2026 5:46 pm
by Wanderer618
I want to get more directly in touch with that part of
"myself" that can truly lead me on this pathless path. To cut out more of the noise to allow that quiet place within to take the lead. Do you have any method to do this?
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2026 5:59 pm
by Anastacia42
Everything I've given you is a method to do this. Pick the ones you like.
Be aware, too, that quiet is not required. Just attention to direct experience & not believing in the lie of a "self." I was sitting in my car in traffic.
Here's something Vince wrote. Does any of it resonate?
The main impediment, as it shows up here, is the felt need to make something happen.
More specifically:
the seeker-pattern that keeps trying to reproduce, control, or get back to peace.
It shows up as:
wanting to know how the quiet happened
wanting to be able to do it again at will
turning calm into a result to be achieved
turning “letting go,” “surrender,” and “do nothing” into things a someone must do
looking for the right method, video, understanding, or inner move that will finally make awakening land
So if I isolate it as cleanly as possible:
Main impediment is the belief that awakening is something a “me” can produce, control, or attain in the future.
Underneath that, there’s a second layer feeding it:
The emotional flavour is the habitual orientation toward fixing discomfort and improving experience — the half-glass-empty reflex that interprets life as something that should be made different.
That is why even good pointers get turned into suffering:
“do nothing” becomes “how do I do do-nothing?”
“let go” becomes “I need to let go better”
“surrender” becomes “I must perform surrender”
a glimpse of peace becomes “how do I make that happen again?”
So the core obstacle is not lack of insight. It is not lack of practice. It is not lack of sincerity.
It is the selfing movement that immediately claims experience and tries to use it to get somewhere else.
Wanting peace is disturbing peace.
Wanting awakening is reinforcing the seeker.
The main impediment to “waking up” is the attempt to wake up.
What seems to most obstruct waking up is the deeply conditioned assumption that “I” can make it happen. You keep trying to reproduce peace, control insight, or perform surrender, and in doing so quietly reinforces the very self it longs to be free of. So the impediment is not lack of understanding, but the reflex to use every glimpse, practice, or pointer as a way to get somewhere else. In that sense, the obstacle is the effort itself — the movement of becoming, fixing, and attaining.
What if the one trying to wake up is the one being seen through?
What if the effort to arrive is what creates the sense of distance?
What if nothing is missing except the idea that something is missing?
much love
vince
Loving,
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2026 1:14 pm
by Wanderer618
Does any of it resonate?
Yes! All of it resonates. It seems to be such a fine line between doing and non-doing or allowing. This form that I am feels more in flow than I have in quite some time. Thanks for sending Vince's writing. I hopefully will be able to make his group this weekend. I'm so glad you reached out and are here to guide me. I will remind myself or hopefully just allow the practice of ButtChair to surface and be experienced as often as possible.
It's 2:12am here and I cannot sleep. I am in the process of sorting through all my belongings to give away some and release others and pack the little left to move to Hawai'i island July 1st. It's a huge task ahead but I'm being carried along by whatever drives on this pathless path.
In gratitude,
Jazzmina
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:24 pm
by Anastacia42
Hi.
I heard there was a tsunami & a tornado. Are you okay?
Loving,
Re: Seeing There is No Real self
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2026 3:37 am
by Wanderer618
Yes, things are all good here. Thanks for checking in and asking to make sure I'm ok.