Freedom

[MinnaO]

Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.

Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?

Thank you Stacy!
This is a really good and simple exercise.

There is no clear division between them. Just sensation in the body. It's more obvious when I close my eyes. It's not possible to know where the butt ends and the chair starts.

-Minna-

[Anastacia42]

Yes. exactly!

Keep looking. Watch for any shift in perception.

This isn't, as you know. about right answers
It is about what happens when you See the truth.

Loving,

[MinnaO]

There is this story of little Minna, who was good at school. Always listened teachers very carefully and knew all the right answers. I know that attitude is not going to help me this time. There is no grades to achieve. And yet mind wants to have more and more exercises and hope that in that way it will get its freedom.
Maybe I should do nothing and just sit in the chair next months and hope that shift in perception happens like that on its own.
If that happened with you, why not with me too, right?:)

I hope that I am not wasting your time. I am scared that no shift happens for me ever, only every other "students".
And yet, there is no me, there is no you or any other...

Love: Minna

[Anastacia42]

Hi Minna,

I also was a straight A student with all the right answers. Yes, you can see no self, too.

There is no rush. As far as I know, I'll be here. Doing nothing is actually a good idea. Just practice looking with ButtChair every now and then, Be relaxed.

Report here and see what happens.

Have you read "Gateless Gatecrashers?" That can help.

Much love,

[MinnaO]

Hi Stacy!

Yes, I think that relaxing is the key. "I" have nothing to achieve here, since there is no I:)
Also idea to just see everything folding on it's own. Life living itself. Looking for example how this body drives a car, no need for a driver in that. How strange!

I have almost finished reading that book "Gateless Gatecrashers". Very good and it clears things a lot.
Maybe I should read it again:)

Thank you for your patience. I feel that I just need to trust that this is a process and everything is just fine all the time.

With love : Minna

[Anastacia42]

Minna,

Can you say 100% there is no separate "self? "

If so, how does it FEEL to see this?

Also, watch these, please:

https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

and

https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4

Loving,

[MinnaO]

Can you say 100% there is no separate "self? "

If so, how does it FEEL to see this?

Yes, it is clear that there is no separate self. It is just knowing kind of feeling.
It's more easy to see it with other people. How they are just doing their thing on their own unique way, like cats and dogs.
Feels kind of funny to say that. But it doesn't feel 100 % in this body of Minna yet. She is taking her"self" still too seriously
most of the times and getting lost in the thoughts. Noticing more and more that they are just thoughts, programmings of the past.
Sitting with feelings that arises and giving them space to just be and fall. No more escaping to books, Netflix etc.
Feels like being more awake. Just want to explore more deep.
Body has been really tired this week after going back to workplace to old "energies" after holiday...
More lost in thoughts there and old programming going on.
Exhausted after workdays, needed a nap every day.

That kind of report seemed to come out:) No idea, did I answer your questions:)))

Love: Minna

Thank you for the videos. Need to sit more with them!

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

Yes, you answered.

What do you expect it to be like to see no self?

Did I send these?

watch these, please:

https://youtu.be/vJQcD588g2w

and

https://youtu.be/PUDzrCLlrj4

And have you read the accounts in Gateless Gatecrashers to see what it is like? Download here from Books. That might help.

Loving,

[MinnaO]

What do you expect it to be like to see no self?

That would free me from the 'story of my life'.
No judging myself being a bad mother in the past for example.

If there never was no one to control or making decisions it kind of takes heaviness away from every experience.

No one to blame of anything.

I can let go of the control that I thought I had over my life. Be more relaxed.

Sounds like a freedom.

I can freely explore and see everything that is happening on its own. Enjoy the life more.

On the other hand life could feel more empty and more full also. Kind of paradox really.

Sad too. Nobody has special owning kind of love towards me... releaf about that too, because normally what we call love between two people are just conditionings and assumptions. Always trying to change the other and wanting him/her be somehow different.
No need for any of those ideas any more...yes, definately more freedom..just let the love be there. Everyone are just perfect as they are. No more stickiness.
Just free flow.

And yes, I watched those videos and read some experiences other people had, thank you. I will keep doing that more🙂

Love: Minna

[Anastacia42]

Hi,

Yes. some of that may happen, but it may require more looking & more work. More examining your thoughts and beliefs.

The initial seeing is just a first step. It's not a magic wand that takes away all of your problems & solves all mistaken thinking.

Loving,

[MinnaO]

Yes, I know. A lot of work, clearing to do. Every coming happening is welcome. Everyday life is a perfect place to practice to see the beliefs I still have.
Staying what is, being curious about feelings that are arising in different situations. Quite an adventorous journey.

[Anastacia42]

Do you feel that you have experienced a shift in your perception?

[MinnaO]

Do you feel that you have experienced a shift in your perception?

Not clearly. It feels like a gradual process for me. Old way of seeing is not quite over yet, but something is happening. I think I need to sit more with this. And like you said, all beliefs need to be seen. It's like that old saying of peeling the layers of onion.

Is it possible that shift is a gradual process?
Or is it just something very obvious that you know by certainty in your gut or something?

[Anastacia42]

It can definitely be gradual.

I did not say all beliefs need to be seen. That could take the rest of your life.

You simply see there is no separate "self."

There's a Buddhist teaching of 10 Fetters. Maybe watch this:

https://youtu.be/1xWfBHN6oRk?si=sR8mD84gRsihwFKn

We only guide to see no self here.

Loving,

[MinnaO]

Ok,
I was hoping to get some kind of certificate here to sure me that I'm really seeing that there is no self here😁😁
But I know, that knowing comes only from this end🙂

That fetter -work seems interesting and attracts me a lot. Feels like a next obvious step and definately helps working with beliefs that are still here.

So I will proceed there and keep watching Ilona's videos also that are very helpful too.

Thank you so much Stacy.
I am grateful for this week here with you💜