Non duality_ no seeker

[Headlesspov]

Hi Lubo,

sorry I just wanted to give short direct answers. Please accept my apology.

What 9s to find thet thoughts can not do anything?

I see the thoughts as pure images or bobbles in the space, cannot harm me, when seen directly.
I find this open space when not going to thought. Sometimes I also feel an awareness of the heart and stomach. Its like the awareness is let loose :)

Is there control then?

No control at all, only feel an aliveness, which is uncontrollable. Which really means I cannot control anything :)

The thoughts are not independent livings beings and cannot do anything, if they are seen directly.
By seen I mean, if aware of them. I feel that awareness is already here, regardless of the ''me'' doing anything. But its a game of not getting lost in the old habits of going back to your head and thought loop.

Love

[Lubo]

Edited version :)

Give me more info. What is to find that thoughts can not do anything?
Is there control then?

This is your investigation. I can just point where to look.
Your job is to look

[Lubo]

Ok.

Let's look

cannot harm me

What is this - me - points to?

I find this open space

what is this space, describe it?

I also feel an awareness of the heart and stomach

what the word "awareness" points to?

[Headlesspov]

What is this - me - points to?

It points to this attention/awareness. I don't find anybody here when looked at.

what is this space, describe it?

Its actually hard for me to describe, as its an experience. Its open without any boundaries, whatever happens, that happens within this space. It cannot be controlled, and I don't fell any location. Its like the awareness cannot be turned off (maybe at death, but that's another topic) so anything can happen here in this space. There is no I or anyone to say, ok I will not be aware right now of that sound, or that thought. So there is no ''me'' in the middle of experience.

what the word "awareness" points to?

This points to sensations, aliveness, clearness and love(or maybe accepting is a better word to describe the direct experience)

[Lubo]

Ok Thank you.

Let's look what is here.
What is this, look around?

[Headlesspov]

What is this, look around?

Its the world appearing, or whatever what is, and there is no controlling it.
I see shapes, colours, people, and things. Just this

[Lubo]

Nice
What makes things happen?
Is there responsability?

[Headlesspov]

What makes things happen?

There is no reason for things happening, and things happens all by themselves.

Is there responsability?

No responsibility, things just play out what they do. As there is no controlling, I would say there is no responsibility.

[Lubo]

How far,
how separate are you from what is?

[Headlesspov]

How far,
how separate are you from what is?

Its right here, there is no distance. There are just What is and appear:)

[Lubo]

Can a center be found in what is happening?
What makes things happen?

[Headlesspov]

Can a center be found in what is happening?

No center can be found.
Seeing is done by the eyes. But what is seen and sensed is a totally of everything, which has no center to experience.
For example, I see my daughter running towards me. When looked I feel that its happening there and here at the same time.
Like its here and nowhere.

What makes things happen?

Things happen by their own nature, and not done by anyone. Its aliveness, which cannot be controlled.

The recent days I have started to feel a black stillness. A stillness of black space ,where things are happening.

[Lubo]

Hi dear Rasmus,
Wonderful.

No center can be found.
Seeing is done by the eyes. But what is seen and sensed is a totally of everything, which has no center to experience.
For example, I see my daughter running towards me. When looked I feel that its happening there and here at the same time.
Like its here and nowhere.

Yes no center. and yes - "my daughter running towards me" & "its happening there and here at the same time" - me - my body is here and my daughter is over there - thats how thoughts, language works. And big Yes - everything is happening in the same time - one happening.
Notice again - is there something which is in the body called me?
My body, my voice, my life, but is there something that is Me ? Entity in the body? The owner of what is happening?

I move my hand - is there an I in the body? or movements is what is happening?

The recent days I have started to feel a black stillness. A stillness of black space ,where things are happening.

Yes. I understand what you mean. This is very deep. My advice is to discover what is here, how rich is this that is playing here. Notice the view, what a painter, isn't it? Notice sensations, what a joy?
Thoughts - what an experience :)
Notice the freshens of each experience.
Is there something from yesterday? :)

Is there experience called yesterday at all?

Love
Lubo

[Headlesspov]

Hi Lubo,

Notice again - is there something which is in the body called me?

No there is not any place in the body called me. All experience is ''me'' if we can say that. Without getting attached to the word me.

My body, my voice, my life, but is there something that is Me ? Entity in the body? The owner of what is happening

No separate entity in the body. There is no owner in all this , but just the scene where everyone play out their nature.
There is a unity in all this. You and I are the same scene.

I move my hand - is there an I in the body? or movements is what is happening?

Movements are just happening. I guess sometimes the ''I'' fell like it can control it, if ''I'' want to reach out for a glass of water. However I cannot explain how I does this, so its more a continues movement of life.

My advice is to discover what is here, how rich is this that is playing here. Notice the view, what a painter, isn't it? Notice sensations, what a joy?

Its alive and still at the same time. Its quite hard to describe, it feels like a place to rest. It does fell like everything pass away and come into existence at the time time. Its rich and accepting.

Is there something from yesterday? :)
Is there experience called yesterday at all?

When looking there is no yesterday. I can go to memory and recall what I did yesterday. However sitting with it there is just this.

Love Rasmus

[Lubo]

:)

I guess sometimes the ''I'' fell like it can control it, if ''I'' want to reach out for a glass of water. However I cannot explain how I does this, so its more a continues movement of life.

"However I cannot explain how I does this" - this is my job to show you where to look ;).
So, we are looking for independent living beings which can move hand

Exactly like this on the picture.
Check step by step
- hand - is it independent living being? Can it decide to move or not to move?
- body - is it independent living being? Can it decide to move or not to move hand?
- thought- is it independent living being? Can it decide to move or not to move the hand ?
is there someone in the body? In the head?

Look like an eagle, how drinking of water or movements of hand happens? Is there someone?
Is there someone which is human? or human is just a label for the body, thoughts and sensations?

Love
Lubo