The Gate

Hi Robert
When we see the self for what it is, that is all we are doing.
Thoughts and feelings continue to arise with no one controlling them (as before)
The appearance of "Selfing" as a conglomerate of these is likely to appear at times too
But all we need to do is investigate experience and we rediscover there is nothing having this experience
After time the karma/habit looses its momentum if looking/reorientation continues

Take your time to answer the set questions. Try to flesh it out with your own experience as much as possible so it is easier to see where you are and so if there is anything more to look into.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Give examples from your experience.

6) Anything to add?

Hi Richard. 1.There never was a seperate self. i or me 2The seperate self is learnt from an early age its like a prison 3When the feeling of seperation has gone life goes on but its ownerless. The differance is incredible. 4when you asked me who or what isnt convinced i realised it was thoughts doubting not I 5 it all just happens,i dont make things happen or control anything.i cycle down the town and dependant on where i go or what i see feelings arise but it just happens. 6anything to add yeah im very hot.

:-)

I have a question for you to look into from another guide:

What it is that feels pride and what is the 'thing' (attainment?) is that occasions pride?

Richard its all imagination,thoughts arising emotions but no owner.The I cant attain anything because it doesn't exist

And what has changed to give reason that these thoughts and emotions should arise?

Richard,the feeling of a separate self has gone,things arnt out there anymore thanks to you