The Gate

Great, in that case, try this :


Actual/Direct Experience - Apple

Have a look at an apple (or any fruit you like.) If you have a ‘real’ apple, you can use it for this exercise. Google for a picture of an apple.



When looking at an apple, there's color; a thought saying ‘apple’; and maybe a thought saying, "I'm looking at an apple."

What is known for sure? Color is known and thoughts are known.

What about the content of thoughts, what they describe?

Actual experience does not refer to thoughts ABOUT something…because that is only just more thought.

Actual experience is sound, thought, color, smell, taste, sensation and the fact of thought arising, but not its content.

Is there really an ‘apple’ here, or only color and a thought ABOUT ‘apple’?

Can ‘apple’ be found in actual experience?

While these thoughts are known, what they talk ABOUT can't be found in actual experience.

This is what is meant by "looking in actual experience." What you know for sure, and, is always here.

Taste labeled ‘apple’ is known
Color labeled ‘apple’ is known
Sensation labeled ‘apple’ is known (when apple is touched)
Smell labeled ‘apple’ is known
Thought about/of an ‘apple’ is known

However, is an apple actually known?

Have fun and let me know what you find out.

Loving,
Stacy

What about the content of thoughts, what they describe?
Is there really an ‘apple’ here, or only color and a thought ABOUT ‘apple’?
Can ‘apple’ be found in actual experience

Content is not known
Only colour and a thought about it
No it can't
Hi Stacy, do you do phone talks at all?
Cheers, Igor

Hi Igor,

I have not done phone calls, no.

It seems to me that would only be a way to cling to a story of "self." This isn't about beliefs or thoughts or philosophies.

All you need to do is LOOK, and you do that on your own.

What would you want from a phone call?

Thanks
Stacy

I just find it easier to communicate via talking rather than texting or writing in general that's all... cheers

I just find it easier to communicate via talking rather than texting or writing in general that's all... cheers

Some of the guides do video chats. Do you want to find someone who is doing that? Or do you want to continue here? Either way is fine.

Much love,

Stacy

Oh yes please, I'd prefer video chats..
Thanks

I've posted to see who is available.

I like being able to answer in the middle of the night or quickly from work. That's easier for me

Just watch for a reply.

Much love,
Stacy

Great thank you 🙏

Also, go look at the Gate thread on video chat. Ilona is looking for 5 people willing to be recorded.

Thanks, I've asked Ilona, but she might have to many people...if so, do I just wait for an available guide who does some video guidance to email me? Thanks, Igor

Yes, they'll post here.

Awesome thanks for everything Stacy.

My pleasure.

Stacy

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