Re: New member - thank you
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 5:11 am
The direct experience is openness, breathe calms, and attention on awareness when the truth is exposed.What about DE in addition to your replies?
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The direct experience is openness, breathe calms, and attention on awareness when the truth is exposed.What about DE in addition to your replies?
This is a little tricky. We have to use language, which means using words. EVERY word is a made- up story. Truth is completely wordless.The direct experience is openness, breathe calms, and attention on awareness when the truth is exposed.
In any case, yes openness & relaxation.The direct experience is openness, breathe calms, and attention on awareness when the truth is exposed.
Thanks for bringing this to light. I do see it now.What you wrote isn't just DE, but also some story. Can you see this?
Only sensation in general area of butt and chair, no clear boundary sensed. Experimented with eyes closed and eyes open and same conclusion. This is mind blowing, a belief that wasn’t looked at.Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?
Yes, that's what we do here - blow minds.This is mind blowing, a belief that wasn’t looked at.
No significant difference in feeling.How does it FEEL to see this?
Yes, it is clear, all the beliefs I had held are built on an illusion.Can you see that there is no self?
YesThat there never was?
YesThat "self" is a made up story, just like Santa Claus?
We are looking for a significant difference in feeling & seeing.How does it FEEL to see this?
No significant difference in feeling.
No1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
NoWas there ever?
The separate self is a belief that was learned or acquired. Just as language is learned, the belief that there is separate self is learned, it is an illusion that survives off of more thoughts, emotions and stories. There is no self when looked for.2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
Every belief is built on no foundation or truth, beliefs and thoughts are falling apart.3) How does it feel to see this?
The difference is the direct experience, thank you for pointing to actually look and know, rather than mentalIze and understand.What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
Not sure, the conditions were right. It is so obvious and simple that there is no self. In the past “I” was thinking about thoughts rather than looking for what is here in reality.4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
There is no decision, life is happening. There is what is here and now, or illusion of thoughts. There is truth/reality, or illusion. Not a decision rather a realization of what is.5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.
Intention is just a thought. Intention is a thought about a plan or aim. Thoughts on thoughts, the truth is that there is only ever what is right here and now.Describe intention & give examples from experience.
There is no free will. Free will would imply that there is an “I” doing something, and it is able to control and manage life. Life just is, no separate self. Can “I” stop the body from going to the bathroom, can “I” not sleep, can “I” not breathe, can “I” stop thoughts? can “I” not stop seeing or hearing? “I” cannot do anything. There is no seperate “I”, things are just happening, a belief “I” cannot have free will.Describe free will & give examples from experience.
There is no choice, just what is. The mind can believe there is a choice but in reality there is only one path, reality/truth.Describe choice & give examples from experience.
No controller can be found. Life just is. It is the belief that things should be different than what is, that creates the illusion of suffering.Describe control & give examples from experience.
Life is just happening. No doer. No thinker, just thoughts, no hearer, just hearing happening, no seeer, just seeing happening.What makes things happen? How does it work?
There is no controller that is responsible, everything is just happening here and now. Openness and acceptance, watching what is.What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
Thank you for pointing me to look rather than think about. I am very grateful. Thanks again.6) Anything to add?