New member - thank you

[ACIMONE33]

What about DE in addition to your replies?

The direct experience is openness, breathe calms, and attention on awareness when the truth is exposed.

[Anastacia42]

Good morning,

The direct experience is openness, breathe calms, and attention on awareness when the truth is exposed.

This is a little tricky. We have to use language, which means using words. EVERY word is a made- up story. Truth is completely wordless.

What you wrote isn't just DE, but also some story. Can you see this?

Direct Experience - Labeling Daily Activities

Here's an exercise that I would like you to try as many times throughout the day as you can. Label daily activities simply color/image, sound, smell, taste, sensation, thought.

So for example, when having breakfast, become aware of:

Seeing a cup, simply= image/color
Smelling coffee, simply = smell
Feeling the warmth of the coffee cup, simply = sensation
Tasting the coffee, simply = taste
Hearing the spoon stirring the coffee, simply = sound
Thought about drinking the coffee, simply = thought

Just break down daily activities into these categories (which are all Actual/Direct Experience) and report back with lists exactly like the one above.

Post several of your own observations in a list *exactly* like the one above, please.

Refer to the green list of Actual/Direct Experience in the prior post if that helps. Those are the only items any experience can be.

The direct experience is openness, breathe calms, and attention on awareness when the truth is exposed.

In any case, yes openness & relaxation.

Can you find any "self" anywhere?

Let's do the only pointer I was given here. I call it ButtChair.

Please LOOK for any place where your butt ends & the chair begins.

Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?


I did this for 3 months before I SAW no self here.

Loving,

[ACIMONE33]

What you wrote isn't just DE, but also some story. Can you see this?

Thanks for bringing this to light. I do see it now.

openness, = simply, sensation

breathe calms= simply sensation

and attention on awareness= Words cannot describe

I will work on the remaining questions, thank you.

Beau

[Anastacia42]

Excellent!

[ACIMONE33]

Is there any clear dividing line between them? Or only the Sensation with no clear division?

Only sensation in general area of butt and chair, no clear boundary sensed. Experimented with eyes closed and eyes open and same conclusion. This is mind blowing, a belief that wasn’t looked at.


Thanks,

Beau

[Anastacia42]

Hi Beau!

This is mind blowing, a belief that wasn’t looked at.

Yes, that's what we do here - blow minds.

Minds, quite literally, since it is thinking that leads us astray.

How does it FEEL to see this?

The shift to seeing no self is much like seeing those optical illusions that can be 2 different pictures. Such as old woman/ young woman or candlestick/ faces.

https://images.app.goo.gl/qAyhfP9RXPc8nQwD7

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/file ... -illusion

Or seeing that Santa Claus is just a man in a red suit.

Can you see that there is no self? That there never was? That "self" is a made up story, just like Santa Claus?

Loving,

[ACIMONE33]

Hi Stacy,

I got tied up with work today, I will answer these tomorrow. Have a nice night.

Beau

[Anastacia42]

That's fine. Thanks for letting me know.

Ready for the snow? :)

Much love,

[ACIMONE33]

The snow is here, we will see how much we get.

How does it FEEL to see this?

No significant difference in feeling.

Can you see that there is no self?

Yes, it is clear, all the beliefs I had held are built on an illusion.

That there never was?

Yes

That "self" is a made up story, just like Santa Claus?

Yes

Thank you,
Beau

[Anastacia42]

Beau, have you read Gateless Gatecrashers download able from ou Resources, Books here?

See you tomorrow!

[ACIMONE33]

See you tomorrow, I will read that.

[Anastacia42]

Great. Reading how others SAW can help.

How does it FEEL to see this?
No significant difference in feeling.

We are looking for a significant difference in feeling & seeing.

The shift to seeing no self is much like seeing those optical illusions that can be 2 different pictures. Such as old woman/ young woman or candlestick/ faces.

https://images.app.goo.gl/qAyhfP9RXPc8nQwD7

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/fil ... s-illusion

Or seeing that Santa Claus is just a man in a red suit.

Can you see that there is no self?

[Anastacia42]

Here's what I look like:

https://youtu.be/nnT8WACJy4U

[Anastacia42]

Hi Beau (and family! )

So fun to meet in person! Thank you!

Here is a link to the meeting tomorrow & every 2 weeks. Your wife is welcome if she's interested.

Our next one is:

May 23, 2022 05:00 AM Canberra, Melbourne, Sydney
Then fortnightly
May 23, 2022 05:00 AM
Jun 6, 2022 05:00 AM

Join Zoom Meeting Click here

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86991485768?p ... 12Um5DQT09

Meeting ID: 869 9148 5768
Passcode: 083035

That's 1 pm our time. I plan to be there - Lord willin' and the crick don't rise.

https://dateful.com/time-zone-converter

Okay. Let's put in print what you said in person. Here are the "final" questions. Take as much time as you need.


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

Much love to all of you,

~ Stacy

[ACIMONE33]

Thanks for the link, if I am home from Denver tomorrow I will sign on. It was nice meeting you in person also.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?

No

Was there ever?

No

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

The separate self is a belief that was learned or acquired. Just as language is learned, the belief that there is separate self is learned, it is an illusion that survives off of more thoughts, emotions and stories. There is no self when looked for.

3) How does it feel to see this?

Every belief is built on no foundation or truth, beliefs and thoughts are falling apart.

What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

The difference is the direct experience, thank you for pointing to actually look and know, rather than mentalIze and understand.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

Not sure, the conditions were right. It is so obvious and simple that there is no self. In the past “I” was thinking about thoughts rather than looking for what is here in reality.

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

There is no decision, life is happening. There is what is here and now, or illusion of thoughts. There is truth/reality, or illusion. Not a decision rather a realization of what is.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Intention is just a thought. Intention is a thought about a plan or aim. Thoughts on thoughts, the truth is that there is only ever what is right here and now.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

There is no free will. Free will would imply that there is an “I” doing something, and it is able to control and manage life. Life just is, no separate self. Can “I” stop the body from going to the bathroom, can “I” not sleep, can “I” not breathe, can “I” stop thoughts? can “I” not stop seeing or hearing? “I” cannot do anything. There is no seperate “I”, things are just happening, a belief “I” cannot have free will.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

There is no choice, just what is. The mind can believe there is a choice but in reality there is only one path, reality/truth.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

No controller can be found. Life just is. It is the belief that things should be different than what is, that creates the illusion of suffering.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

Life is just happening. No doer. No thinker, just thoughts, no hearer, just hearing happening, no seeer, just seeing happening.

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

There is no controller that is responsible, everything is just happening here and now. Openness and acceptance, watching what is.

6) Anything to add?

Thank you for pointing me to look rather than think about. I am very grateful. Thanks again.

Beau