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Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:27 pm
by StacyD
Dear Anastasia,
Can you find a separate "self" anywhere? Was there ever?
I can find no “separate” & no “self” anywhere. Each of these words point to the content of thought. This fact illuminates that each term is impossible. In actual experience, there is no self in any color 🦋🍀💗, there is no self in any sound 🎶🎸🎵🥁, there is no self in any sensation 🌊👏👅, there is no self in any 💭💬🗯.

There is no “I,” no separate self anywhere, anytime, anyhow, anyplace, ever. “I” is just a thought; the content of a thought. When one says there is no separate self possible, it is clear. All that can be experienced Is No One, the One Self everywhere, every time, every how, everyplace, always.

All is simply happening of Itself, it’s non-self, Oneself. Nothing is causing anything. Everything is completely freely happening, from a deep well of pure Stillness. In this light, SEEING through is all that one can do and EVER is asked to do; all else happens independently freely spontaneously. A little willingness to DO absolutely nothing… an invitation to be truly as I was created to be… simply Still. And yet, even SEEING is simply happening.
♾💗♾

“It is the Unborn that sees and hears, eats and sleeps.” Bankei

🙏 Yours,

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:26 pm
by Anastacia42
How about this?

Let's look at the idea of "choice."

Palm Flipping Exercise

1. Hold a hand in front of you; palm turned down.

2. Now turn the palm up. And down...and up and so on.

Watch like a hawk.

Don't go to thoughts – examine your direct experience.

Do this as many times as you like, and each time inquire:

How is the movement controlled?

Does a thought control it?

Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?

How is the decision made to turn the hand over?


Track any decision point when a thought MADE THE DECISION to turn the hand over and the hand turns over immediately.

Who or what ​ chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?

Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?


Loving,

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:01 am
by StacyD
How is the movement controlled?
It’s a miracle 😊
Does a thought control it?
Thoughts cannot control anything. They rise and fall like color, sound, and sensation. They have no substance or power.
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?
No controller, simply happening.
How is the decision made to turn the hand over?
No decision. The hand turns.
Who or what ​chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?
No one chose, it was (No-) Self-selected 😂.
Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?
I find no one and no thing choosing, deciding, or making either hand turn up or down. The hand moves and the thought left and right occur simultaneously or just after.

Yours,

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:02 am
by StacyD
How is the movement controlled?
It’s a miracle 😊
Does a thought control it?
Thoughts cannot control anything. They rise and fall like color, sound, and sensation. They have no substance or power.
Can a ‘controller’ of any description be located?
No controller, simply happening.
How is the decision made to turn the hand over?
No decision. The hand turns.
Who or what ​chose which hand - the left or right hand for the exercise?
No one chose, it was (No-) Self-selected 😂.
Can you find a separate individual or anything that is choosing when to turn the palm up or down?
I find no one and no thing choosing, deciding, or making either hand turn up or down. The hand moves and the thought left and right occur simultaneously or just after.

Yours,

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:04 am
by StacyD
Oops! No one submitted and submitted again 🤣

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:38 am
by Anastacia42
LOL

Sounding "cooked."

What is there still to seek?

What is still missing?


Loving,

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:30 am
by StacyD
What is there still to seek?
There is nothing to seek because everything is simply happening. Although for the sake of interest, I really enjoy the company of others who are clearly SEEING, I know there is more to be seen through and I invite Grace to make it clear. I’m open to suggestions also, awakening is happening.
What is still missing?
Of course nothing could be missing. Although I imagine more SEEING will bring more inspired insight.

I’m so so happy to have made your acquaintance, and received your loving guidance. Grace has blessed me and added the undeniable humor of matching our interests, names, and alias’.

May I ask, for yourself,

What is there still to seek?

What is still missing?

I would so enjoy getting to know you better 😊

Yours, Stacy

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 1:42 pm
by Anastacia42
Good morning, Stacy,

We have some traditional "final questions" we ask here. Then other guides read the answers & ask questions if they see anything unclear.

Yes, we can get to know one another. There are also a couple of groups & a monthly meeting where you may meet others.

For now:


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?

May I ask, for yourself,

What is there still to seek?

What is still missing?

I would so enjoy getting to know you better
😊

Nothing to seek. It can even be a little boring at times.
Nothing missing. Life continues as it always has. Things arise & pass away.

There's a book, available on Amazon, that "I" was a part of. 20 people writing on different aspects of "What's Awakening Really Like?" You might enjoy it:

https://smile.amazon.com/Whats-Awakenin ... 04&sr=8-1

Stacy Ann Clark on Facebook or the same at Gmail Auth you want to get in touch.

Loving,

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:37 am
by StacyD
I plan to respond this evening. Apologies for today, it’s been one happening after the next 👍🏼

Yours,

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:09 am
by Anastacia42
Hi

That's fine.

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:30 am
by StacyD
Dear Stacy,

I hope that it is okay, I will answer the first few questions, and then respond with the last questions, tomorrow.
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
A recent statement by Lera Boroditsky (https://irl.umsl.edu/oer/13/) points out a common observation made throughout time that, "language shapes the way we think." What I have learned, is that language truly defies nature Herself, literally. Not unlike the story of Eden, when our bodies are born they are indivisible from the parents, family, AND environment in which they find themselves. Eyes closed, one sees an infinite void of darkness. Eyes open, one sees an infinite screen of happenings. One creates and destroys the seen world with eyes open, eyes closed. Naturally, one is born absolutely innocent really; open and vulnerable. There is no shred of a separate self in this experience for any body experiencing a birth (this would apply to all children, animals, and plant life as well : ). Prior to learning language, every child, all around the world, inheres the honest truth of our nature. It is inherited because it it innate. It can never be seen, or heard, sensed, or imagined because it is the nature of seeing, hearing sensing, and thinking. When one interacts with a newborn, they may notice the intent gaze, the fluid engagement of sound and sensing in the newborn. Many would say of this child, "they are innocent and curious." We were all once innocently and curiously engaging as seeing, hearing, sensing, and thinking.

As one then naturally progresses through development, one begins to learn language and assumes a me and you, a subject and a verb, and this creates a relative and temporary support for expression and communication. Our innate nature was simply "overlooked" by language with when we begin to use a personal "I," interestingly as we assume this characterization of a personality, we simultaneously lose the first person singular experience.

To say we have a separate self, we have to realize that on several levels, we are defying the facts. Nothing is "separate" from anything in any way. No matter how hard we try to fortify the separate self idea, at the end of the day, it simply is an idea. It is not at our command to create the reality of a separate I. There is no personal "I,"  anywhere. There never has never and never will be. It is a reference thought used in communication. What is undeniable is our true nature, and luckily it was always the case, and is forever the unchangeable.

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3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.[/quote] In this nonverbal, clear SEEING, sensations arise, and thoughts arise. The still source of this SEEING Is as it always Is… Although, for the purposes of communicating though, I can describe an experience of *effervescience ( play on words). It’s light and disappearing, it’s still and spacious, empty of emptiness… it is freeing. [quote]4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?[/quote] I suppose the truth is desperation made me look. How could it be that I have no recollection of asking to be here, and yet having to experience everything without an real solution or option otherwise? How could it be that some are born so fortunate, and others naturally will be destined for hardship and ill-fate? How could it be that relationships are so vital and yet so flawed?  "I" was desperate really to end the insanity.

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:31 am
by StacyD
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
In this nonverbal, clear SEEING, sensations arise, and thoughts arise. The still source of this SEEING Is as it always Is… Although, for the purposes of communicating though, I can describe an experience of *effervescience ( play on words). It’s light and disappearing, it’s still and spacious, empty of emptiness… it is freeing.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
I suppose the truth is desperation made me look. How could it be that I have no recollection of asking to be here, and yet having to experience everything without an real solution or option otherwise? How could it be that some are born so fortunate, and others naturally will be destined for hardship and ill-fate? How could it be that relationships are so vital and yet so flawed? "I" was desperate really to end the insanity.

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:12 pm
by Anastacia42
Good morning

So far, so good. That first one was a bit of a novel! We just need enough to see that you are SEEING.

Loving,

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:06 pm
by Anastacia42
Good morning!

Are you having any trouble with Question 5?

Loving,

Re: Seeing again and again

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:02 pm
by StacyD
I will respond today. I’m getting ready for vacation and it has all flowed even more swiftly.

Yours,