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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:37 am

Thanks for letting me know
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:55 pm

A long long time ago, I discovered that the ego was nothing but an image in the mind. That it was not me. I was rather, That Which Observed the Ego. A witnessing consciousness. This was another movement towards Truth and freedom.

I could go on and on about how limited the ego is. An image of self could never be accurate, could never “see” anything as it is, and could never connect with anyone, anything, or all that is. It is a dead thing with no power.

So the question could be, have I made the witness consciousness into another thing or image? Another separation from Life. I have often said separation is a lie. But how far have I taken that? I feel close. But who is the I that is close to what? Another image of self and another image of being there?

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:24 pm

Hi Gregory
A long long time ago, I discovered that the ego was nothing but an image in the mind. That it was not me. I was rather, That Which Observed the Ego. A witnessing consciousness. This was another movement towards Truth and freedom.

I could go on and on about how limited the ego is. An image of self could never be accurate, could never “see” anything as it is, and could never connect with anyone, anything, or all that is. It is a dead thing with no power.
I don't disagree, but remember that your task here is to keep coming back to what you can observe in your direct experience right now. That's my task here - to keep you focused on that.

So..
If I was to tell you that Santa is real, would you see him in the room right now? Can you see the difference between the real and the imagined?
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:53 am

f I was to tell you that Santa is real, would you see him in the room right now? Can you see the difference between the real and the imagined?
I would not see Santa.

I’m not sure how to answer this. Sometimes I think the mind has created my entire experience and is therefore a type of illusion. Are you saying I should only stick with what can be experienced with the physical senses?

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:36 am

Hi Gregory
Can you see the difference between the real and the imagined?
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:52 pm

Yes.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:10 pm

Very good!
Self is imagined. You can look for the real self, but can it be found?
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:45 pm

Self is imagined. You can look for the real self, but can it be found?
No. The Truth of self is that there is no self at all. That which sees cannot be seen and does not exist in the objective world. There is Awareness but no one that is aware.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:42 am

Yep!
There is a big difference between knowing that there is nothing to give up and seeing that there is nothing to give up.

Here is an example to illustrate the difference:

If I ask you what colour socks you are wearing right now you have two ways to come up with an answer:

• You can have a think about it, you can think back to this morning and try to remember putting your socks on, and you can probably tell me what colour you think they are.

• Alternatively, you can take a quick look at your socks and tell me what colour they actually are!

Hopefully you would agree that you can only be 100% certain by looking.

For the purpose of our dialogue together, it is going to be very important that you are clear about this difference. Knowing is about knowledge which is all in the mind and we are not interested in that. We are only interested in looking at and seeing what is actually going on in your present moment to moment experience. We are only interested in your direct experience in the moment.

Does that make sense?

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:40 pm

Knowing is about knowledge which is all in the mind and we are not interested in that. We are only interested in looking at and seeing what is actually going on in your present moment to moment experience. We are only interested in your direct experience in the moment.

Does that make sense?
Yes. Direct experience only. No assumptions, beliefs etc. What is in the present moment.

Thank you for riding this out with me.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:20 am

Hi Gregory,
Direct experience only. No assumptions, beliefs etc. What is in the present moment.
exactly!
Sit quietly and relax, take your time just looking at what is in front of you for awhile.
Observe how the mind is dividing and labelling every thing into objects and is embellishing them with stories about what they are.
Give it some time
Then, stop watching the objects as labelled objects. Just look at the seeing itself. Observe the pure process of seeing. This is direct experience (DE).

Let me know if that's clear
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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:21 pm

Then, stop watching the objects as labelled objects. Just look at the seeing itself. Observe the pure process of seeing. This is direct experience (DE). Let me know if this is clear.
I am familiar with this seeing. Recognizing when the mind, thought, words etc. try to superimpose themselves upon simple observation of any thing or person. What does seeing see? A unified field of radiant energy. Except for my attempt to put words to what is seen, I am with you a 100% on this one.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:37 pm

ok. So contining this theme, here's another exercise for you
Try as many times throughout the day as you can. Label daily activities simply colour/image, sound, smell, taste, sensation, thought.
So for example, when having breakfast, become aware of:-
Seeing a cup, simply= image/colour
Smelling coffee, simply = smell
Feeling the warmth of the coffee cup, simply = sensation
Tasting the coffee, simply = taste
Hearing the spoon stirring the coffee, simply = sound
Thought about drinking the coffee, simply = thought
Just break down daily activities into these categories (which are all actual/direct experience) and report back how you go.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Gregoryblade » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:14 pm

Just break down daily activities into these categories (which are all actual/direct experience) and report back how you go.
There was MUCH less thinking thinking that’s for sure. I definitely heard more sounds outside my windows. I was also more present to the here and now. It’s was enjoyable.

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Re: Cosmic Consciousness

Postby Seamist » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:58 am

Sounds good!
Have a look at an apple. If you have a ‘real’ apple, you can use it for this exercise.
(If not - here's a link to a photo of one)
http://www.maryshomestead.com/sitebuild ... /fruit.gif

When looking at an apple, there's colour; a thought saying ‘apple’; and maybe a thought saying, "I'm looking at an apple."
What is known for sure? Colour is known and thoughts are known.

What about the content of thoughts, what they describe?
Actual experience does not refer to thoughts ABOUT something…because that is only just more thought. Actual experience is sound, thought, colour, smell, taste, sensation.

Is there really an ‘apple’ here, or only colour and a thought ABOUT ‘apple’?
Can ‘apple’ be found in actual experience?

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