The Gate

Some resistance is felt with this one. Though I know conceptually there is no line, it feels like there is one. I cannot tell where that line is. When I go back there is no line. But yet a moment there feels like there is. I will work more on this. I do not want to lie and just say, Oh, yeah, I am one with no separation.

Did some more brief(3 seconds to 5 minutes) looks. Moments of no boundary and the same feeling as when "I disappeared." And moments of discomfort while "I searched" and the boundary "seemed" to be there. I realize there is nothing wrong with the discomfort. What is noticing the discomfort? It will take time.

I go about my day lightly as before. Just have to use words and words don't quite get it. Will continue to look for the boundary when the "mood" strikes. Thanks for the pointer, Jon.

Mainly this bit is about not finding a line or edge. But there are other little exercises we can try that will reveal the same thing.

I'm not finding a line or edge. I feel like I want to find something. Finding no form is uncomfortable. But there isn't anything to find. I sit with the uncomfortable.

Mainly this bit is about not finding a line or edge. But there are other little exercises we can try that will reveal the same thing.

I'm not finding a line or edge. I feel like I want to find something. Finding no form is uncomfortable. But there isn't anything to find. I sit with the uncomfortable.

Would you say that there is a kind of anxiety or fear?

The first thing to do is to thank this loyal impulse very sincerely and as deeply as possible for its protection and suggets to it that it can now relax, becasue nobody is threatened.

The first thing to do is to thank this loyal impulse very sincerely and as deeply as possible for its protection and suggets to it that it can now relax, becasue nobody is threatened.


Thank you for the pointer. Pema Chodron and Thich Nhat Hanh talk alot about making friends and smiling to the anxiety or fear. I know the anxiety is nothing to be upset about. I try to instead be interested in the anxiety. "Interesting. There it is again."

suggets to it that it can now relax, becasue nobody is threatened.

Do you find that the uncomfortable feeling when not finding a line or boundary is lessened at all?

Is it clear that no such line where 'you' end and 'everything else' begins really exists, except as an idea?

Do you find that the uncomfortable feeling when not finding a line or boundary is lessened at all?
Yes. I am able to relax into the feeling. No line. No problem.
Is it clear that no such line where 'you' end and 'everything else' begins really exists, except as an idea?
Yes.

Can you say, with a big 'yes' that there is no self? No separate and unchanging entity? Is this seen without a doubt?

Can you say, with a big 'yes' that there is no self? No separate and unchanging entity? Is this seen without a doubt?
Yes. Or rather than resounding more matter of fact like answering "Do you see that you breathe in oxygen through your nose and mouth.

A by product of this seeing (not sure how it is related to the no self) is that there is no time. I used to spend a lot of thoughts on future. In the morning, instead of thinking about what I'm doing, I'm thinking about lunch. During lunch, instead of eating, I'm thinking about what I'm going to do in an hour. Its true that planning is important but I'm doing more than planning. I'm thinking about things that may not happen. Now I'm able to catch myself and see the future thought and go back to what I'm doing. There is just one time. Not a series of moments.