Re: Just is
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:24 pm
What do you mean it happens to "no-one". This again is concepsualizing. Only your experience of Looking will do.3)To whom does it happen ?
3) No one
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What do you mean it happens to "no-one". This again is concepsualizing. Only your experience of Looking will do.3)To whom does it happen ?
3) No one
Close to what?We standing very close
Experience is that it is a creation of my minds thoughts, imagination seems like a good label. A movie or story that paints a fictional portrayal of what has happened, is happening, or will happen. It (‘I’) is happening without any feeling that there is control but the seeing (when there is looking for it) of what it is gives a feeling of ability or of light shining to see on the other side of it.!) So what is this false "I", if it cannot be located. How does it work. Please explain in detail in your experience
My body feels and is experiencing these things. None of it is controllable by me or I it just is. Seeing it for what it is changes what it was thought to be. You use the word ‘suffers’. There is not suffering only feelings that the body experiences of anxiety or pain or whatever bad things. The mind creates the thought of suffering.2)This reads like conceptualization and not enough of a response anyway . Who is it that suffers pain and anxiety, because that is being experienced. It is not " nothing". Tell me what you believe is happening. Lots of ramblings , please.
There is no ‘me’. There is a body and a mind that has feelings and has experiences. A body and mind that has the ability to give and feel Love.4) Lovely. This is what is shining. I know this, but can you say something else about this experience.
Not ‘just’ a body and mind. It is not a minimal thing. The body and mind are incredible……created by God for a purpose. What does it feel like? Powerful, motivating, compassion…..like a gift of life and love was given so that the same gift can be shared. You asked what it feels like to ‘realize you are an illusion’? Feels….embarrassing, ashamed that there has been so much selfishness created by what used to make up the false self. But then replaced by the feeling of opportunity...5) Lovely but tell me what it feels like in your body to realize you are an illusion and just a body, at most, with thoughts and that there is no individual self.
A mind and a body.What do you mean it happens to "no-one". This again is concepsualizing. Only your experience of Looking will do.
To these final questionsClose to what?We standing very close
5) Well there is no 'I' so how can there be a will that is free or a will at all? Everything just happens without a controller or manager. I experience the inability to control thoughts, moods, feelings, sounds.....there is realization that the mind makes choices and then later thoughts, then labels, then expectations, judgment come later. There is no controller that is an 'I' in this process. What FEELS right is right.....without the thoughts.5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control as you understand it now. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Please give examples from experience if you can, and explain what you have realised.