1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
- No in reality there is no self, no I anywhere. It only appears that way, because one believes their thoughts were created by them.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
- the illusion is believing you own these thoughts and feelings, it started from an early age, through conditioning, from others and through not seeing that life is just doing life. At times I do see, that each moment is not a problem, it is just what is happening because of infinite events. And that moment be it pain or feelings or thoughts, all are just arising and at some point will fall, but in the end there is just being there with it.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
- it feels different than the normal every day feeling of in the past consisting of believing in the thoughts, a sense of freedom to be just this. I find myself in rest if you will, no hurry. Each day opens up more, in seeing that when I pop up, the story does not grow, but I also see the story of others and how their SELF or false self is alive and it is not their fault, no one is to blame because there is no one.
This is new beginning for me, of which no one is beginning but you know what I mean. I still see moments of that MIND doing its thing, but its not a issue, no treadmill to run on.
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Re: From somewhere to nowhere
Great, thank you!
Just to clarify - two more questions regarding what you have written to Q1-3:
...and here come Q4-6:
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Please give examples from recent experience.
6) Anything to add?
Regards
Alex
Just to clarify - two more questions regarding what you have written to Q1-3:
Yes, ok, life is just happening. What about these moments that are not seen to be no problem? Are they any different then any other moment? What makes them a potential problem?At times I do see, that each moment is not a problem, it is just what is happening because of infinite events.
Is there someone with these moments, some separate experiencer? When a sensation is experienced, do you find a separate experiencer of the sensation that could be with or without the sensation? What is there?And that moment be it pain or feelings or thoughts, all are just arising and at some point will fall, but in the end there is just being there with it.
...and here come Q4-6:
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Please give examples from recent experience.
6) Anything to add?
Regards
Alex
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Re: From somewhere to nowhere
I had written a reply and lost it all, I thought sent it two days ago. Oh well let me begin again.
In the past I would have been upset I lost it,but there is no ill will, just start over that's all.
I rarely have moments that are not seen as no problem, but when I do it is work related, either disappointed in myself or someone. The moment does not last but for a few moments as I begin to see the reality or lack of reality in it. That this is just happening and this is where I am and that is no one here to blame. I would like to add in those moments being a self, really all moments are the same, that it is just what is no different than a moment ago.
What makes them a potential problem is in the end protecting that ego, and I am sure as time goes on, that ego will diminish as the insight of no self arise.
There is no one with these experiences, no separate person, just seeing, hearing, thoughts,and sensations, that come and go. Most importantly is the thoughts are just like hearing or feelings, like the wind, no owner.
What finally make me look is seeing thoughts are the same as hearing, no owner, that made me see it for what it really is, it put them in the same level for the first time ever!
Free will, decision, intentions and choices arise on their own, Before thought, there is no control, there maybe an A or B to choose, but that just happens and later a thought looks to see what was put on the board and states that.
I see it everyday, when to get up from a chair, the body states it needs a drink, but even that move to start go get that drink happens on its own. To remember something happens on its own, so call choice is a combination of one's pattern, history, all put together and something happen and a choice is made. I play a a lot of golf and decision on wghich club to use 8 or 9 iron, the mind does it thing, weighting pro and cons, but once I quiet my ind and wait, a gut feeling or a soft voice speaks or right before the thought arise an invisible force is there creating that choice, I did not choose it.
In the past I would have been upset I lost it,but there is no ill will, just start over that's all.
I rarely have moments that are not seen as no problem, but when I do it is work related, either disappointed in myself or someone. The moment does not last but for a few moments as I begin to see the reality or lack of reality in it. That this is just happening and this is where I am and that is no one here to blame. I would like to add in those moments being a self, really all moments are the same, that it is just what is no different than a moment ago.
What makes them a potential problem is in the end protecting that ego, and I am sure as time goes on, that ego will diminish as the insight of no self arise.
There is no one with these experiences, no separate person, just seeing, hearing, thoughts,and sensations, that come and go. Most importantly is the thoughts are just like hearing or feelings, like the wind, no owner.
What finally make me look is seeing thoughts are the same as hearing, no owner, that made me see it for what it really is, it put them in the same level for the first time ever!
Free will, decision, intentions and choices arise on their own, Before thought, there is no control, there maybe an A or B to choose, but that just happens and later a thought looks to see what was put on the board and states that.
I see it everyday, when to get up from a chair, the body states it needs a drink, but even that move to start go get that drink happens on its own. To remember something happens on its own, so call choice is a combination of one's pattern, history, all put together and something happen and a choice is made. I play a a lot of golf and decision on wghich club to use 8 or 9 iron, the mind does it thing, weighting pro and cons, but once I quiet my ind and wait, a gut feeling or a soft voice speaks or right before the thought arise an invisible force is there creating that choice, I did not choose it.
Re: From somewhere to nowhere
Could you please answer another question from another guide: What is the ego made of that is being protected and needs diminishing?
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Re: From somewhere to nowhere
Hahahahaha the ego is also made up of thoughts of a false self. What is ego, now that is the question. It maybe called ego, but it is really fear, fear of being hurt. But that hurt is also from a false self , stories of whom you think you are, which circles right back to thoughts and old beliefs of being separate from just this, everything else is either past or future thoughts which are not real. Protecting the fear of becoming nothing, that life or Self will disappear.
Re: From somewhere to nowhere
Another question regarding:
Can the Self disappear?Protecting the fear of becoming nothing, that life or Self will disappear.
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There is no self to begin with only the belief there is. Built by history, which are just memories and desires which all not the truth. I see that now. It's an illusion.
Re: From somewhere to nowhere
Great, thank you!
Let me know if you want us to add you to the LU Facebook groups - many nice people there to share and discuss post gate topics with. Please send me a private message on this forum with your FB name (and maybe a link to your FB page) if you want to be added.
It was a pleasure talking to you and hope to see you on FB soon.
Alex
Let me know if you want us to add you to the LU Facebook groups - many nice people there to share and discuss post gate topics with. Please send me a private message on this forum with your FB name (and maybe a link to your FB page) if you want to be added.
It was a pleasure talking to you and hope to see you on FB soon.
Alex
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Re: From somewhere to nowhere
Alex,
Great love too. You stated private message on this forum, how is that done?
Great love too. You stated private message on this forum, how is that done?
Re: From somewhere to nowhere
Hi
Just click on my name (link) and then on the member details page there is a link "PM: Send private message"
Alex
Just click on my name (link) and then on the member details page there is a link "PM: Send private message"
Alex
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