The last step...

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Re: The last step...

Postby RonWhitaker » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:33 pm

I am responsible for keeping an eye on "I". Nothing more.

What is the "I" that is responsible to keep and eye on "I"? Can it be found in experience?
I pick up the "I" and something pokes me with a stick.
What picks up the "I"?
Does the “I” pop up? So what! There is emptiness
behind it. Go back to that emptiness and stare at it. Get
familiar with it, focus on it, and let it wash over all that is
still arising as doubt. See that the “I” is empty and it’s okay
for it to be here. It’s just a word. You have to use the word
“I,” as without it, it would be difficult to communicate. It
does not mean that an entity pops up. “I” is just another
thought passing by.
This app quote is exactly what I mean by "Keeping and eye on "I". And yes when the "I" pops up for me it is much like getting poked with a stick. And Yes there is an immediate experience of emptiness behind the "I", the unreal "I".

I feel like I am being force to drop the "I" thought. If so I am lost and very confused.

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Re: The last step...

Postby codyjdennis » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:43 pm

Ron,

I get what you're saying. I am not asking you to drop the I-thought. I never asked you to do so.

Simply is it clear the the "I" is unreal? That's all I am getting at. That's all I was ever pointing you towards.

- Cody
All there is, is liberation. What arises in liberation is the idea that 'I' am not liberated.

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Re: The last step...

Postby RonWhitaker » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:13 pm

Yes and be aware when the "I" thought has been considered real.

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Re: The last step...

Postby codyjdennis » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:12 am

Hey Ron,

Thank you. Just waiting on the guides.

Cody
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Re: The last step...

Postby codyjdennis » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:36 am

Hi Ron,

A guide had another question for you.

What is the "I" that has any control over whether the "I" pops up or is seen through.

Can that self be found in experience???

Best,
Cody
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Re: The last step...

Postby RonWhitaker » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:41 pm


What is the "I" that has any control over whether the "I" pops up or is seen through.
No idea

Can that self be found in experience???
No



Seeing, Hearing, Feeling all happen, just flow. Memories triggered, thoughts arise.

How lovely... Isn't that beautiful... I made that...

Just came up, watch, just let it be

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Re: The last step...

Postby RonWhitaker » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:43 am

Part of he agreement is for me to write each day. So I thought I'd comment on today.

Investigation continues controlled by what I do not know. Thought just come up out of know where. They are just thoughts. I see no controller, feel no controller. Trying to figure it out is thinking. Observing finds nothing. Thoughts just pop up.

Today's meditation was particularly quiet. Experience clear. Witnessing - interesting concept but from clear experience there is just clear experience, no witness, no I.

Now to the interesting one, pure being or even Awareness. As I said this morning was particularly clear. Just clarity. How to explain simple clear experience. Sure you can say Awareness but isn't that just another word for seeing. When sensing is clear with no thoughts arising even for short periods the system becomes very quiet, silent relaxed, peace and pleasant feelings.

Not even thoughts of who is experiencing this, just simple clarity. Of course after a bit the mind winds up and throws noise around. Who does this, no findings, intention brings back quiet clarity. Who's intention - now that's the paradox.

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Re: The last step...

Postby codyjdennis » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:18 pm

Ron,

Thanks for posting. Just got
A chance now to read over this.

Really wonderful post. You seem very clear on this & clear enough to really talk from your own experience.

I'm am just waiting on a few more guides to confirm. I will be back soon.

Best,
Cody
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Re: The last step...

Postby codyjdennis » Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:58 pm

Hey Ron,

Just wanted to let you know the guides responded and they all confirmed! :)

What happens next is you will be turned blue on the forum, for more access and added to our Facebook aftercare group which you may visit if you want. If you have a Facebook and send me a link they can add you.

Thank your for your patience & persistence during this process. It's been a pleasure guiding you. You may contact me whenever you like if things come up. Either on here or Facebook.

I wish you the best Ron.


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Re: The last step...

Postby RonWhitaker » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:17 pm

Thanks much for your patience.

I do not do Facebook so may contact you here.


Keep up the good work!

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Re: The last step...

Postby codyjdennis » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:23 am

You're welcome :)

Okay sounds good.

Thanks! I will.

Take Care,
Cody
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