I am ready...

[Bill]

Ok Claire I'd like to ask you the questions we ask all..
Some call these the 'final questions' but I think that's a misnomer.
There's no final anything :)

Let's go ahead with the these.. if anything is left we haven't touched on, it will come up.
Please give each your full attention, take your time... there's no rush for any of this.
I will put your answers out to some of our other guides to look at for any comments or questions.
If you're not aware, when this dialogue is ended we have several Facebook groups for aftercare and discussion.
This is an added bonus here for sure.

We ask these when you have asserted that yes, you have SEEN thru the illusion of self.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give specific and very recent examples from your direct experience.

6) Anything to add?

[iamsource]

Ok Claire I'd like to ask you the questions we ask all..
Some call these the 'final questions' but I think that's a misnomer.
There's no final anything :)

Let's go ahead with the these.. if anything is left we haven't touched on, it will come up.
Please give each your full attention, take your time... there's no rush for any of this.
I will put your answers out to some of our other guides to look at for any comments or questions.
If you're not aware, when this dialogue is ended we have several Facebook groups for aftercare and discussion.
This is an added bonus here for sure.

Whew, ok thanks for these and wonderful to hear that there is aftercare and discussion. :)


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?


No there is no separate entity "self" and there never was.

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

From what I can see, this false idea of "self" started when we were children. I used to think that I was a conscious child because I had several epiphanys when I was only small - I remember actually staring at my hand and thinking wow, I am "me" and I can't be anyone else. It scared me and lead me to some terrible separation anxiety with my mother because I realised (or thought at the time) that she was a different person to me and could die when I wasn't there.

Looking back now, I see this was the start of the "me" and the awakening of thought. I have asked many people along the way if this kind of experience happened to them and the answer is usually no. But it happens whether we are aware of it or not. We begin to identify with our thoughts and presume that is who we are. Why wouldn't we, when every generation in our family and the society around us seems in agreement. It wasn't even a question. Plus, when we're children we're taught, this is YOUR body (cool that's mine), this is YOUR toy (cool that's mine), this YOUR room (cool that's mine) this is YOUR friend (cool she's mine) and the list goes on. So we also learn to claim objects, people, surroundings and give those to the thoughts too. As time goes on, we have what we consider lots of memories from all these moments and use them to re-affirm the "self".

Even when we don't feel complete, or dissatisfied and even when we go looking for who we are. It seems the momentum is too strong. The deceit is too heavily woven. It wasn't until a considerable time of trying to find "me" and couldn't and a hard time of trying to manage this tsunami of thoughts (and couldn't) that I realised that I was missing something here and that there must be another way.


3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.


It feels like FREEDOM to see the mumbo jumbo that is the mind - is not the "self" and that there is no "self" in the sense that I'd grown to identify with. It also feels like PEACE. When I started this dialogue, I already had a seed of an idea but that soon blossomed into knowing. There were a few days where I wrestled my thoughts over the idea of control and free will. Worry came up - about losing something but as I settled into it, continued looking and also enjoying said peace. I realised that life has always been unfolding and my trying to drive it only really caused "me" suffering. When relaxed and trusting that life will continue as it did before I was able to let that go.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

Bill telling me to look lol. This guidance helped me to focus very specifically on what is. Without any mind funk. It resonated deeply and the more I saw it, the more I knew it.

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give specific and very recent examples from your direct experience.

We have no control or choices. We only "think" we do. Life unfolds and there are experiences. "I" am not responsible for anything. "I" would have said before oh well my daughters welfare for sure! But when you see that life unfolds by itself, I would take care of her anyway because that is a part of life and this experience.

Direct experiences. I'd like to use the crow experience I posted about a few days ago because it was a biggy for me. I was eating chicken in the car and tossed a piece to a crow that was sitting on the grass. It came, ate the chicken, then went immediately to a puddle and drank water. The chicken was spicy and I too had done the same thing after eating the first bite. I saw in that moment no difference between the crow and "I". It hadn't been chilling on that grass with a mind full of fluff wondering who would feed "him". He was there experiencing his crow life, saw food, ate it, recognised it needed water, drank from puddle. That would be us too without the mind funk.



6) Anything to add?

Just thanks Bill! For putting up with all the rambling lol. (Sorry this is really long too) You've been really laidback and I really appreciate your approach, time and poking me into LOOKING! <3

[Bill]

Great job Claire,

Your answers were clear and concise. And very thorough.
You've been confirmed by the other guides.
You're now blue in color on the forum.
It was clear you were very close upon coming here and just needed a gentle nudge.

We invite you to the FB LU New Arrivals & Unleashed groups, which are both a form of aftercare and discussion.
Check out this page below.
The first part of it concerns the facebook groups. I will email you on how to join them.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=696
There are a couple other FB groups we have for discussion that you also might be interested in.
And also there is guiding others should you choose to do that, I think you'd do well.
Also if you look, there's a bit more of the website available to you now.
Just look around, you'll see it.

Life goes on..... so if there's any more questions that come up for you...don't hesitate.
I will leave this thread open for awhile if you have any further questions
or if you want to make any more comments.
It will be moved to the Archive section so look for it there.
Let me know if there's anything more needed.
I look forward to talking with you further.
It's been great pointing for you!

Namaste,
Bill