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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby sam-iam » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:03 pm

Hi Vivi,

yes -- I am here, although a bit preoccupied of which is against the "guidelines" of a message per day. I do my best to keep up and make some adjustments so that the greatest benefit of this guiding can be experienced.

[quoteHow can a headless have a brain?
Not looking for guesses as answers! [/quote]

I did some serious Direct Experience looking at this, and the only thing is that what the mass is, is what the mass is. So the story of brains is part of the false I am. So, in direct experience, I have no brains. It is about as real as my hands which are typing this message. In direct experience, it just happens and flows.
What is the direct experience of signals entering the brain through different senses?
My response, there is no real experience per se. It it all a mind-game. Looks like a simulation.

I have read other people's accounts, but for me it feels more like it is all pushed out.
What you wrote about processing etc is nice theory/knowledge, something you have learned, is it also the direct experience?
To my best honesty, I have done my best to keep the direct experience in it.
What are you
Nameless, ageless, no-one, just being here and happening. :)

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby dreamer » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:09 am

Hi Sami

Great!

Any doubts left that there is no separate I?
If yes, what?

Greetings Vivi

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby sam-iam » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:28 pm

Hi Vivi:
Any doubts left that there is no separate I?
If yes, what?
There is no truth to a separate I - at least can't direct experience it.. but then again, I am still curious why the story happens as it happens. How life just happens...the mechanism behind it...but that is not the purpose of this forum as far as my direct experience goes.

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby dreamer » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:14 pm

Hi Sami

Oh yes, wouldn't it be wonderful to know what is behind it..... well there is no behind - can a 'behind' be found in direct experience? All there is is experience and there is such a habit of explanations, reasons, causes. None of which can be found in Direct experience - check it ;)

Here are some questions for you:

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
 
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now. 
 
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
 
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? 
 
5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Give examples from your experience.
 
6) Anything to add?

You can answer one at a time, a couple at a time or all of them at once, as it happens

Greetings Vivi

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby sam-iam » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:04 pm

Hi Vivi,

as it happens, life happens and I've been under some stress -- but I haven't forgotten DE'ing those questions on your list. Will do my best to respond you later today. :) Just wanted to check in.

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby dreamer » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:30 pm

Thanks for letting me know

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby sam-iam » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:07 am

Hi Vivi,

an acquaintance of mine gave me a profound insight that kind of helped me to get a better direct experience of what thoughts, feelings etc. are. The quote in essence is this: "there is no matrix. there is no us. just the consciousness and the things that are happening inside our heads. nothing exists outside our consciousness."
well there is no behind - can a 'behind' be found in direct experience? All there is is experience and there is such a habit of explanations, reasons, causes. None of which can be found in Direct experience - check it ;)
This is what I have been doing daily, whenever it occurs to do so. And I agree, I can't find them in direct experience, they are just headless thoughts. As a matter of fact, the experience is kind of disillusioning.
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
I seem to be unable to find any, there is just "beingness" that is one with all there is.
 
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now. 
Like when the baby is born, it has no separate self or I, it simply is, experiences and little by little we are being told you are your body, name, conditions of life, circumstances. We are taught things and alinate from the true beingness. In my own experience, it has worked so that I thought that there is a me who learns things, who either succeeds or fails, this me decides what I will do with my life etc. etc. Earlier also so that I am this body and that consciousness is my thoughts and feelings.
 
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.


When I embarked on this journey, I had already a some sort of "mental grasp" in literate sense about it.. but this process of direct experiencing / looking has liberated something -- and it is kind of peaceful feeling. Of course, it was a bit of shock that there is no reality to separate I or that choices are not real. I must say I did have a cow with that part...
 
Actually, I have no special feeling about it - it just is. Feelings come and go, just as thoughts. Problems and life's seeming events are like modules that may come but they don't get identified to any false separate I or me.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look? 
Actually, the last bit was the quote I included in the beginning. It clicked something and cracked me like "WOW". I don't know why. Doesn't matter. What matters is that it helped.
5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Give examples from your experience.
My experience is that there is a fine line between what is story and what is real. Honest answer to the question is that when I look in DE to intentions, they seem to be a part of the story. What is there to make happen or do or to control? All that I can say is real is the being, something is. But I might need to explore this further, if you can help me to make sure I have got it right, please.
6) Anything to add?
Only the last question in the response to your question #5.

Greetings!

-sami

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby dreamer » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:47 pm

Thank you for the answers Sami. You will hear from me asap.

To your last question. 'Something' is, and further exploring probably is what will happen from now on :)

Greetings Vivi

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby dreamer » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:19 pm

Hi Sami

RE: your answer to question 1:
"I seem to be unable to find any, there is just "beingness" that is one with all there is."
Can you clarify this? You *seem* to be unable to find any, does that mean there could be a separate self you haven't been able to locate?

Re: your answer to question 2:
Can you be more detailed in explaining how the illusion of a separate self works for you?

Greetings Vivi

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby dreamer » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:03 pm

Re your answer to question 3: exactly what is meant with "choices are not real". In what way exactly?

Vivi :)

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby dreamer » Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:31 pm

sami - sami - saaammiiii - SAAMIII? :)

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby sam-iam » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:55 am

Hi Vivi,
Can you clarify this? You *seem* to be unable to find any, does that mean there could be a separate self you haven't been able to locate?
Words are limiting... what I meant is that for a past week, as I have looked at all the stories going on, I have realized more and more that there truly is no separate self. What is mind-blowing to the old "beliefs" is the peacefulness of true being without any labels from where this all just flows and happens as it happens.. eventhough the story that is currently going on -- would tempt to panic (life situations).

So -- there is no external self to be located because none has ever existed. Period :)
Can you be more detailed in explaining how the illusion of a separate self works for you?
Actually I don't see much of use -- because I don't see how the illusion's opinions and separated false selfs could be much of use.. Or did you want me to clarify how the illusion self was created to a fuller extent?

-sami

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby sam-iam » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:57 am

Re your answer to question 3: exactly what is meant with "choices are not real". In what way exactly?
In the way that my brains create a story around them and associates them with past experiences, but they are part of that false "I am". Making it look like this external self are in charge. Or worse yet that other people and external circumstances determine life's conditions.

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Re: Looking for a Guide to work with and share my awakening.

Postby dreamer » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:05 pm

Hi Sami
I have PM'ed you :)


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