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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby SunDew » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:29 pm


Can you say that you are sure that there is no Sundew? Or is it any doubts about that?
Hi Behzad…I thought you’d gone off for Easter, nice to hear you again.
To-night it is good and peaceful. I walk and there is awareness of walking – as if walking were in the forefront-and just happening. There is no question of self or no self and everything is very calm and quiet. Now I’m typing and it is the same. For me certainty is very experiential, and when it is not there(experience in front and awareness in the background) I get confused and identified with whatever is going on….with all the doubts and negative feelings that come along with it, that is when it seems that nothing is really happening and that I’m back in the old rut.
So YES that is when doubts come up. I try to keep alert and awake and what you say is very useful.
Lots of stuff is happening, and probably it is progressive, but when I read the experiences in the book, the moment of certainty seems MORE POTENT & DEFINITE THAN MINE. I think that this brings up comparison frustration and uncertainty
Love Sundew

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby Behzad » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:20 am

Good Sundew, nice to hear this. Lets get a little deeper now : )
I walk and there is awareness of walking – as if walking were in the forefront-and just happening.
Can you see that something is not right in this sentence? There is awareness and there is walking, I smell duality here. There is still duality in place, awareness and walking. If you want to practise being awareness all the time, then you will get pretty miserable bcause thats not easy. If you expect that you should remain as awareness all the time that will be an impossible task Sundew. Can you feel how much effort this takes? That it still needs someone to do that, to keep the awareness, to keep the distance from whats happening, to keep the seperation between awareness and whats happening? Is this expectation really possible to stay as awareness all the time?

There is awareness, there is walking happening. Who/what knows these 2 things?

Sometimes this can also be a way to avoid whats happening, because this makes us feel detached from whats happening. We try to stay as awareness so we can seperate us from maybe something that the mind doesnt like. Can you see that this is another way the seeking takes place. Now its all about staying as awareness, to not be identified with whats happening, to not be sucked into whats happening, to be the observer.

The awareness you are talking about, spend some time with it. Sit with it as if you are whatching it to see what it is, Is that you? If there is knowing of the awareness, can you be the awareness then?
For me certainty is very experiential, and when it is not there(experience in front and awareness in the background) I get confused and identified with whatever is going on….with all the doubts and negative feelings that come along with it, that is when it seems that nothing is really happening and that I’m back in the old rut.
This thing here is very important Sundew so take a real, deep, honest look here. You are assuming that confusion, doubts, identification with feelings and thoughts should not happen. When you are back in the old rut then you are thinking that this should not be happening. You think that you should remain as awareness, detached from all this right? You should remain in youre little cave of awareness where you can be seperate from what you dont want to be or experiencing.

When old rut is happening then the thoughts may arise that say something like "now i am back in this old shit again" or "I got lost again in feelings/thoughts" or "this experience of being lost in thoughts and feelings should not be happening, I should remain as awareness" and so on. Are all of these storys you ? These are only thoughts/storys, can you see clearly to whom/what these storys point to as clearly that you can see the computer in front of you? Can you see the owner of these thought storys?

This is just storys about an I that moves in and out of experience so to speak. An I that is lost sometimes in experience and an I that tries to stay as awareness. In these 2 cases if you could not see these 2 things happening then you could not report it, talk about it and tell me about it. Like, if you are at home right now, you dont have any idea of whats going on in the shopping mall near youre house, beacuse you are not seeing whats happening there, right? You may have ideas about it but you cant truly know whats going on there because you are not seeing this right now. So, there is a seeing/knowing of awareness free from identification and when awareness is identified.

So the owner of these 2 experiences must be that wich knows them, that must be the owner because it feels like this is happening to me, so that must be the me, that wich knows these 2 experiences. Hope you are with me so far. What I am trying to say is that the most logical place the I can be must be that wich things is happening to, right. So now I want you to take a look at that place and tell me what you see. Is there an I there?

If these 2 experiences where projected on a screen and I would ask you is there any I, you, Sundew looking at the screen on wich these 2 experiences come and go, what would you answer be, take a good look before you answer? I dont want any answer from youre mind here, just from what is being seen. So you can tell the mind to take a nap for while so you can take a good look. Is there a seer seeing all this play?

Truly stay with this question, dont waver even for a second until the answer is known/seen. Dont leave this question until you are 200% sure of what the answer is. Good luck : ))

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby SunDew » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:39 pm

There is awareness, there is walking happening. Who/what knows these 2 things?
I could say awareness but again there is duality- very freaky and confusing- I see that I’m trying to understand and figure it out and give the right answer
Both happen in awareness
You think that you should remain as awareness, detached from all this right? You should remain in youre little cave of awareness where you can be seperate from what you dont want to be or experiencing.
TRUE ALL THE WAY…If I’m awareness all this stuff can happen – if I like it I see the “liking” – if I don’t I see the dislike maybe the judgment, but these things do not touch me (I see they are just thoughts maybe feelings, sensations… all different “objects appearing in the sky of consciousness- the truth and reality of this moment – even a story within thought is happening in this moment) same as a bird on the window sill. He is just sitting there so what. It is happening, I’m observing.
But of course I also see that this implies duality
Are all of these storys you ? These are only thoughts/storys, can you see clearly to whom/what these storys point to as clearly that you can see the computer in front of you? Can you see the owner of these thought storys?
They are all stories about “ME about I”- I can’t see the owner- they just appear in consciousness
This is just storys about an I that moves in and out of experience so to speak
YES VERY CLEAR- there is a stable something that doesn’t move, is always present and in this presence there are thoughts appearing- these thoughts contain a story and the main character is always a Me or an I
What I am trying to say is that the most logical place the I can be must be that wich things is happening to, right. So now I want you to take a look at that place and tell me what you see. Is there an I there?
OK THIS IS RIGHT…I CAN ONLY SEE REALITY..THE BIRD ON THE BRANCH. IF THE SHUTTERS ARE CLOSED IT IS A THOUGHT..IF IS A MOVIE, I SEE IT BUT I’M SEEING A STORY ABOUT THE BIRD ON THE BRANCH. NEITHER OF THEM EXIST -
If these 2 experiences where projected on a screen and I would ask you is there any I, you, Sundew looking at the screen on wich these 2 experiences come and go, what would you answer be, take a good look before you answer? I dont want any answer from youre mind here, just from what is being seen. Is there a seer seeing all this play?
Yesterday while looking at the screen there was nothing there to look at- and nobody looking. Not only was the head completely empty, but it stayed empty for a few hours. There was surprise but no particular shock. Today it is not like that – but it is not important. There has been quite a shift…even though there is still something lingering and I’ll continue looking. (by the way it is 3 days I’m with fever…)
love Sundew

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby Behzad » Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:04 pm

Behzad wrote:
Are all of these storys you ? These are only thoughts/storys, can you see clearly to whom/what these storys point to as clearly that you can see the computer in front of you? Can you see the owner of these thought storys?

They are all stories about “ME about I”- I can’t see the owner- they just appear in consciousness
Who or what knows consciousness?
Behzad wrote:
If these 2 experiences where projected on a screen and I would ask you is there any I, you, Sundew looking at the screen on wich these 2 experiences come and go, what would you answer be, take a good look before you answer? I dont want any answer from youre mind here, just from what is being seen. Is there a seer seeing all this play?


Yesterday while looking at the screen there was nothing there to look at- and nobody looking. Not only was the head completely empty, but it stayed empty for a few hours. There was surprise but no particular shock. Today it is not like that – but it is not important. There has been quite a shift…even though there is still something lingering and I’ll continue looking. (by the way it is 3 days I’m with fever…)
What has shifted Sundew? Could you describe it more in detalj?

Hope the fever is leaving you so you can be good again : )

Lots of Love
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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby SunDew » Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:40 pm

Hi Behzad, before we go into to-days post I want to add something to the last one
You think that you should remain as awareness, detached from all this right? You should remain in youre little cave of awareness where you can be seperate from what you dont want to be or experiencing.
Here there is confusion – it is true that “I and ME” come in and out of awareness in thought form. They are just stories about me/I- objects within awareness- and in the story the character feels emotions (anger…frustration….) .
These emotions are also fiction and are not the truth – However-
This same (anger…frustration…) is felt in the now, and another thought follows (yes, but this is just fiction…. It is not the truth- you cannot feel it) – and here comes:
Awareness is not touched (or should not be touched…)- and sometimes it is not.
That is when I feel that: YES there is only awareness aware of itself and all emotions or thoughts exist but are peripheral, and also they come and go. Awareness is always there
But I’ve also been through the arising of emotion…meeting it…allowing it… which is followed by transformation (and I wrote about this magical stuff).
I think this is a big piece of confusion

Now we'll go for to-day...love Sundew

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby SunDew » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:23 am

Hi Behzad, here is the rest
[Who or what knows consciousness?

Consciousness/awareness/knowing just is. If my eyes are open, seeing happens and is linked to the objects of seeing: monitor appears, same with the window the table….Seeing also/always implies an object. There is “knowing” of seeing and of the object. If eyes are closed, seeing is not there, monitor is not there etc. There can still be a mental image of it but I cannot read or write on it.
Hearing is also connected to the sound that is heard: traffic, voice, etc. When the voice stops, there can be a mental hearing of the same things, and an answering- it is all imagined. All senses are connected to an object. All thought is connected to an object. But all of these can only happen in awareness in which seer+seen+awareness come together and cannot be divided. Only awareness knows awareness and it is always present. Awareness = Presence= Knowing = Life- Everything else changes and is in flow, including perception (that can change according to culture, sex. Period etc) which however is still and always present in awareness


[quote]Yesterday while looking at the screen there was nothing there to look at- and nobody looking. Not only was the head completely empty, but it stayed empty for a few hours. There was surprise but no particular shock. Today it is not like that – but it is not important. There has been quite a shift…even though there is still something lingering and I’ll continue looking. (by the way it is 3 days I’m with fever…)
What has shifted Sundew? Could you describe it more in detalj?[quote

The other day I had a business meeting with some high-located people. I felt scared, inadequate with the need to “perform” especially because at one time I was very attracted to one of them. My level of clarity and speaking up nicely and firmly (even when contradicted) was truly surprising. No idea where all this clarity came from. Also I saw how (thru the strategy of performance) I was really trying to not “give in” to this man who in my mind was too big for me (and somehow I could not contain).
The next day what opened up was a “physical” sense of allowing it in (which is still with me)… and realizing that this closing off had previously been for all and everything (not only men)- in other words for me it is again direct experience…and meeting with what is with all the orgasmic emotional consequences implied- which are huge and hard to describe in words , though I’ve already done it. It was a very delicious and transformative thing (just like I’ve written previously) Allowing Allowing sort of like an in-flow of what??? Who knows –just a stream of energy- It felt like a heavy set format had been dismantled and that life could flow through…. After that the fever ha ha ha
Now my head seems to be emptier- this is a physical sensation (except when I go to bed at night, when crowds come flocking in…).
Love Sundew

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby Behzad » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:13 am

Good that you write when you feel confused so we can look into it...
Here there is confusion – it is true that “I and ME” come in and out of awareness in thought form. They are just stories about me/I- objects within awareness- and in the story the character feels emotions (anger…frustration….) .
These emotions are also fiction and are not the truth – However-
This same (anger…frustration…) is felt in the now, and another thought follows (yes, but this is just fiction…. It is not the truth- you cannot feel it)
The I is fiction, its just a thought, a story. Now this fiction/storys are not real as you have seen. You could be sitting and drinking a cup of coffe and while the coffe drinking is happening there could be a story going on in the head for example like, my neighbour is such a pain in the ass and this story maybe leads to emotions/feelings like hatred, annoying and so on towards youre neighbour.

But the story is not happening in youre direct actual experience its just happening as a thought, as a story. The story is not happening in the actual reality, its just imagination but the imagination/fiction leads to feelings that is happening here and now. They are real because you are not imagining it. Wether you think about the feelings or not they are still here and being felt. The cause of them is from the fiction that were happening in the head, the story triggered the emotions/feelings. So in one sense we could say that the emotions are not real beacuse they refer to something that is not happening, they are imagined into existence. But while they happen, that happening is real, they are really here as a energy/emotion.

So the emotions are real but they are triggered by something unreal, something that is not happening.

I dont know if this made it any clearer : ) ??
The next day what opened up was a “physical” sense of allowing it in (which is still with me)… and realizing that this closing off had previously been for all and everything (not only men)- in other words for me it is again direct experience…and meeting with what is with all the orgasmic emotional consequences implied- which are huge and hard to describe in words , though I’ve already done it. It was a very delicious and transformative thing (just like I’ve written previously) Allowing Allowing sort of like an in-flow of what??? Who knows –just a stream of energy- It felt like a heavy set format had been dismantled and that life could flow through….
You are that allowing, when there is allowing then Sundew can be Sundew for the first time. Sundew is free to be sundew with all her good and bad sides. That wich were complaining about Sundew, maybe not liking some of Sundews sides,thinking that Sundew is inadeuquate, that Sundew were missing something, that she is not whole and so on is seen as a unreal story, something unreal. These storys are not refering to anything substantial.

So lets keep going,

Is there anything that you control Sundew?

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby SunDew » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:19 pm

Hi Behzad,

some news from last night, I was awake from 3am with the following:
Seeing is impersonal. There can be an object or no object that is seen….but this does not change the obvious evidence: it is just and only seeing. (this is obvious and cannot be denied)
Meaning of direct experience: there is love and hate…pain and joy- not about or because of….these are just stories (because he…and then….because she and so….)but it isn’t true. Truth is just experiencing Love/Hate…Pain/Joy directly. Just the is-ness of whatever phenomenon. (this has been experienced now many times)

Nothing is personal – everything just happens. Yes there is cause and effect but it does not happen to you or against you. It just is. There is no belonging and nothing can belong to anyone – everything just is. That is the deeper meaning of letting go. (this morning it is still true, but also I feel it has to sink in)

And with all this clarity there is an intuitive understanding that “seer implies ownership of seeing” – which is contradictory and cannot be. However I see it on one side but cannot seem to let it in on the other, there seems to be a sort of stickiness to “owning…or not letting go” as if it is seen intuitively…sort of very close… but not ripe enough yet.
Still with all the contradictions it doesn’t feel just like intellectual jargon.

[quote]So the emotions are real but they are triggered by something unreal, something that is not happening.

I dont know if this made it any clearer : ) ?? Yes thanks


[quote]You are that allowing, when there is allowing then Sundew can be Sundew for the first time. Sundew is free to be

This process is totally beyond what I imagined or thought it could possibly be like – Yes I realize now that, if allowed, Sundew is an open possibility in the now- nothing is fixed and she can be anything in any moment, and it cannot be controlled. It is constant surrender. – this is really a “quantum world”.

But besides the realization, it is the miracle of “being up to it” – every moment can be and is, new and absolute magic. I also see that it is both easy and not.
Easy because it is just a matter of allowing, and therefore aligning to “is-ness” – but also difficult (at least for me) because I find it so deeply emotional that I can only describe it as shattering- almost as if every time I have to be not only ready but truly willing to die. My knees give in, and I’m too weak for anything.


[quote]Is there anything that you control Sundew?

I really don’t know. On one side everything happens on it’s own. It appears (from where?)- and it goes (where??)- but in the middle there is the possibility of either surrendering or resisting – this allowing thing, just happened (to my utter joy and surprise), but in a very subtle way it seems as if every time it requires a yes?? Is it so? Or maybe this is also just happening with no volition??…. Yes here I either need help or time to settle into immensity. I have a feeling your answer will probably be something like…”who or what needs to settle in”....

with love Sundew

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby Behzad » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:37 pm

some news from last night, I was awake from 3am with the following:
Seeing is impersonal. There can be an object or no object that is seen….but this does not change the obvious evidence: it is just and only seeing. (this is obvious and cannot be denied)
Good, just seeing whitout the seer.
Meaning of direct experience: there is love and hate…pain and joy- not about or because of….these are just stories (because he…and then….because she and so….)but it isn’t true. Truth is just experiencing Love/Hate…Pain/Joy directly. Just the is-ness of whatever phenomenon. (this has been experienced now many times)
Very good, the storys is just a storys. Just see whats real and whats not real, this helps to let go of the unreal and you can let the storys come and go as they may, because now there is a knowing that its just a story that is not actually happening in actuality only in imagination/thought.
Nothing is personal – everything just happens. Yes there is cause and effect but it does not happen to you or against you. It just is. There is no belonging and nothing can belong to anyone – everything just is. That is the deeper meaning of letting go. (this morning it is still true, but also I feel it has to sink in)
Beautiful Sundew, but can there be any cause and effect if there is no doer? Cause implies that there is someone causing an action and effect implies that there is a causer that the effect happens at, right? So cause and effect needs someone to do the action and someone to the effect of the cause can happen to.

So if there is no I, can there be anything causing anything? Doesnt cause and effect mean that there is duality? Look at this and let me know what you see : )
But besides the realization, it is the miracle of “being up to it” – every moment can be and is, new and absolute magic. I also see that it is both easy and not.
Easy because it is just a matter of allowing, and therefore aligning to “is-ness” – but also difficult (at least for me) because I find it so deeply emotional that I can only describe it as shattering- almost as if every time I have to be not only ready but truly willing to die. My knees give in, and I’m too weak for anything.
You are not allowing because the you cannot allow, its not real. The you cannot do a damn thing. How can something that is unreal do anything to the real? Something that doesnt exist, how can that impact whats real.

Its like you being asleep and having enormous headache in real life while you are asleep,dreaming and you start to eat youre headache pills in the dream. This doesnt make youre headache better in real life. No matter what you do in the dream, it doesnt change youre headache in real life because the doer is not real, just a dream : )

So we could say that there is allowing naturally when it is seen that there is no I here. Then there is just life happening. This is not easy or difficult, this is just life happening. Life manifest itself in many forms. There is no one whatching life, to say that sometimes its easy and sometime difficult. This is also life happening. You are not there. Everything is life, there is only life and you are that wich embraces even life, you are that wich allows even life to be.
Is there anything that you control Sundew?

I really don’t know. On one side everything happens on it’s own. It appears (from where?)- and it goes (where??)- but in the middle there is the possibility of either surrendering or resisting – this allowing thing, just happened (to my utter joy and surprise), but in a very subtle way it seems as if every time it requires a yes?? Is it so? Or maybe this is also just happening with no volition??…. Yes here I either need help or time to settle into immensity. I have a feeling your answer will probably be something like…”who or what needs to settle in”....
Very good, and you are right about that my answer would be something like who or what needs to settle in : ))
Look and see clearly if there is anyone that needs to settle in...

So you are saying that there is the possibility to either surrender or resist. Who are going to surrender or resist? The unreal character? Can the you really surrender or resist? Look and see if the you can do anything whatsoever?

Just do a little experiment and do whatever you want to do and see how the doing is happening by itself. Walking, seeing, eating, going to the toilet, talking literally everything is happening by itself. I is just an after thought that comes and claims the happening no matter what you do. It assumes that there is an I here that does everything but the I is just a story. See if you can see the story of being the doer of all the actions only as a story and clearly stay with the actual happening and see how it happens by itself and the I is just a thought that comes and goes, just like a cloud. See if the story about the I, the thoughts about the I, if these storys/thoughts is doing the action, the doing?

Let me now how this went?

For there to be surrender or resisting there must be an I to do these things. They both depend on the I. If you remove the I from the picture then you only have thoughts about surrendering and resisting happening but arent both of them equally already allowed in what you are. If they were not allowed then you would not be seeing/knowing them. So if they are seen then they are already allowed. I need to surrender or I am resisting are after thoughts, after the fact that they have already been allowed so to speak.

This requires no yes, this is the seeing/knowing that the yes is already the case all the time everything else is an appearance in it so to speak. Surrender, resistance, thoughts, feelings etc are apperances in what you are. The nothing that you are, the no thingness that you are.

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby SunDew » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:26 pm

Good, just seeing whitout the seer.
And this is where I saw it. There was an immediate “Yes but”…I can see that the object/no object doesn’t affect the seeing…but this doesn’t imply the seer not being there….and then it appeared in all its obviousness – SEEING IS THE REAL THING…THAT WHICH IS HAPPENING. The seer is a story about seeing: an “ABOUT-ISM”… the cause and effect phenomenon, which gives rise to duality – or maybe the other way round. When I saw it I thought God what clarity…I really envy Behzad!!! Ha ha ha there was just envy……
So if there is no I, can there be anything causing anything? Doesnt cause and effect mean that there is duality? Look at this and let me know what you see : )
Of course not and I never saw it or realized it, it was all intellectual jargon. But it is so simple: there is always and always has been and always will be only is-ness…. The “hypothetical” why/because are only stories …little blankets on reality (usually with nice embroidery…)- just like I “hate” him because he’s an idiot!!!!! There is just hatred. Really Behzad all this unfolding is sooooo surprising
Everything is life, there is only life and you are that wich embraces even life, you are that wich allows even life to be.
This is a “Love Declaration” dear Behzad….oh yes I see it, but it is so huge and pregnant. Yes I go back to the earlier statement- it really needs time.
The fictitiousness of “I and Me”, are easier to take in (afterwards of course LOL!!!!!)- but embracing life…allowing what is to be- not just my petty emotions… which already was so huge. We’re talking of it all…of the NOW…. It is the birth of a new approach..spirituality…submission. Life turning up-side-down. I can see why Osho talked of being “drunk with the Divine”…. I see it and must confess that it all seems too much in its overwhelming reality. It is just awe.. tenderness…gratitude. What can I say after so much seeking???
See if you can see the story of being the doer of all the actions only as a story and clearly stay with the actual happening and see how it happens by itself and the I is just a thought that comes and goes, just like a cloud. See if the story about the I, the thoughts about the I, if these storys/thoughts is doing the action, the doing?
Yes it is a matter of attention…and I think what I’ve already written answers this question also.- at least for now because the seeing is so unbelievable and dismantling…God knows what I’ll see tomorrow- but I wanted to answer today
Thank you dear friend for your patience and your wonderful and precious support

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby Behzad » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:30 pm

Aahhhh man, youre post ripped my heart, I am so glad for you Sundew : )))
Lovely to see what you have written. Everything is clear and clean. Wounderful.

So, do you exist?

And

Are you awareness?

Lots of love to you Sundew : ) ?

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby SunDew » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:39 pm

Hi dear Behzad
So, do you exist?
Well maybe also this is normal….I’m reluctant to declare it.
Maybe it’s an old habit, maybe it has to sink in. When I look at the difference between real and not real is so obvious that “I, me you” are not is-ness. I think it is the felt sense that pulls the trick.
And at your direct question it’s like I have to think about it??????...and I'm disappointed at my response

Also in questioning there is a marked obviousness that cannot be denied- but after – a sort of falling back into the old rut, and it needs constant attention to be out of it…. constantly aware of the “allowing” that is involved.

So now there is allowing of this “not so much clarity” which I did not expect- allowing this tiredness and this “should’ness…expectations that are still present”. This disappointment that shouldn't be here.
And in this allowing or surrendering or choiceless awarenss so much softness and tenderness- but also sadness in "having to give up on Me".... and just be with what is!!!!

Lots of love Sundew

Are you awareness?
For awareness it is easier… everything but just everything appears in awareness (both of real and unreal)- maybe life itself (at least as we know it) cannot be without awareness…life is awareness----only awareness is.

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby Behzad » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:56 am

Well maybe also this is normal….I’m reluctant to declare it.
Maybe it’s an old habit, maybe it has to sink in. When I look at the difference between real and not real is so obvious that “I, me you” are not is-ness. I think it is the felt sense that pulls the trick.
And at your direct question it’s like I have to think about it??????...and I'm disappointed at my response
Dear Sundew, you dont need to be disappointed. When I ask you if you exist, this question is very hard to answer if you want to use the mind. If you want to go into thoughts and pull out an answer from there it will only lead to confusion. Things get really complicated to use the mind when it comes to seeing what we are.

This is all about looking/seeing and telling me what is beeing seen. If you want to go to the past, to memories, to youre knowledege and give an answer from there then certainly it will confuse you. But direct experience, what is beeing seen here and now is that confusing? If I ask you is there a horse in youre room. What do you do, you look if there is a horse there, right? You dont start to think about it, analyze, compare, go to the past, look in some books or go to satsang to know if there is a horse in youre room : ) You simply look and see what the answer is. Its that simple. But as I said if you start to think about this then things get very difficult. Take in what I said here and give it one more try.

You also say that its so obvious to seperate the real from the unreal. So stay with the real and see the unreal as unreal. All youre answers is in front of you. Just look at whats real the unreal is the door to confusion and dilemma.


So give it one more shot. Do you exist?
For awareness it is easier… everything but just everything appears in awareness (both of real and unreal)- maybe life itself (at least as we know it) cannot be without awareness…life is awareness----only awareness is.
You didnt answer my question Sundew, stay with the question. Are you Awareness?

Keep on seeing the fact that there is no one here. Everything is happening and in that happening there is no person. Actions happen, thoughts happen, feelings happen, disappointment happen, expectations happen, evertything is happening but there is no one doing it, there is no one to whom it happens to. The doer/you is just a story, a thought happening, its just another thing happening. That wich knows all of this is not a thought, its that in wich all this happen. Be that beacuse you are that.

So give these 2 questions on more shot and answer from what is being seen, take youre time : )

Love
Behzad

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby Behzad » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:02 am

How are things going Sundew : ) ??

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Re: Needing Guidance

Postby SunDew » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:19 pm

Hi Behzad, was away for 2 days and just came back.....I'll post tomorrow
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